UFC 86: "JACKSON vs GRIFFIN", JULY 5th, LAS VEGAS, NV
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oh..he was being noble?...being the good soldier?....
isn`t it funny how that "nobility" disappears after you`re home an` cozy....
you had the "feeling" he could knock griffin out at any moment?....i had the "feeling" that ernie shavers could knock out everybody he stepped into the ring with...
didn`t happen...but,they didn`t award him every decision because he was always the more dangerous man in the ring....
"feelings" and a buck can get you a cup of coffee at 7/11...
face it...rampage was cocky...you could tell from the smack he talked during the ultimate fighter show that he thought he`d beat griffin as easily as wiping doggy doo off his shoe...
i`m embarrassed it didn`t resonate in my brain...
i blame rampage...if he`s totally prepared,he should beat griffin,imo..that`s why i had him in a parlay...
but,shit happens...
rampage does more in round 5,i think you`ve got an argument....but,if you`re saying that jackson clearly won rds 1/3 AND 4,i think you`re mistaken....several of those rounds were very close..
all 3 judges had griffin.....they actually had it much wider than i did...too wide,imo...
nobody was more disappointed in that 5th round performance by rampage than i was...
`the sad aspect of this whole scenario is that i doubt,barring an immediate rematch,that griffin holds the title very long...
and if he doesn`t hold the title,i doubt rampage is more interested in griffin than getting back the title...and the big bucks...
very curious to see what the odds would look like in a rematch....rampage would probably be almost as prohibitive a fave in the 2nd fight,imo...
btw...spongy and i do this on a regular basis...
we`re not actually arguing....it`s like a condition...
if spongy told me the sun rises in the east and sets in the west,i still have to see it myself....:grins:
we`re not actually arguing....it`s like a condition...
if spongy told me the sun rises in the east and sets in the west,i still have to see it myself....:grins:
I find all the Rampage apologists funny. I think it was a close decision, I personally had Griffin close, but wouldn't be crying if Rampage had won. Most telling strikes of the fight were to Rampage's leg. From the Rampage club what I am reading Jackson beat Forrest to a bloody pulp and let Forrest lay on him for a round to rest a knee. The humor of "taking" the champs belt is quite humorous. A real champion wouldn't have made a decision an issue and Rampage would have knocked out Forrest out or dominated and he did neither despite yapping about knocking him out. Great fight-close decision. I was cheering for both guys. I think anyone who gave Rampage round 5 is smoking something I need a little of.
Well I have watched this fight again for a 3rd TIME.
I thought Nelson Hamilton had the pefect scorecard.
He had it 48-46 like the other guy but he scored it like me.
Round 1 Jackson 10-9
Round 2 Griffin 10-8
Round 3 Griffin 10-9 which I gave to Rampage but could see that round either way.
Round 4 Rampage 10-9
Rouind 5 Griffin 10-9 which I thought was close but Griffin did more.
He had Griffin 48-46 my card says 47-47 becuase of Round 3 and I still dont like a 10-8 2ndR. So I could say 48-47 Rampage.
BOTTOMLINE IS NOONE, NOT EVEN KICKSERV CAN TELL ME JACKSON DIDN'T WIN 1 and 4. Only 1 judge(Hamilton gave him Round 1).
Would have been 47-47 if Byrd have given Rampage Round 1. How can Byrd give Rampage Round 5,but not Round 1.:shrug:
I thought Nelson Hamilton had the pefect scorecard.
He had it 48-46 like the other guy but he scored it like me.
Round 1 Jackson 10-9
Round 2 Griffin 10-8
Round 3 Griffin 10-9 which I gave to Rampage but could see that round either way.
Round 4 Rampage 10-9
Rouind 5 Griffin 10-9 which I thought was close but Griffin did more.
He had Griffin 48-46 my card says 47-47 becuase of Round 3 and I still dont like a 10-8 2ndR. So I could say 48-47 Rampage.
BOTTOMLINE IS NOONE, NOT EVEN KICKSERV CAN TELL ME JACKSON DIDN'T WIN 1 and 4. Only 1 judge(Hamilton gave him Round 1).
Would have been 47-47 if Byrd have given Rampage Round 1. How can Byrd give Rampage Round 5,but not Round 1.:shrug:
We are always very close when it comes to boxing and MMA decisions. All my point was that it was a shame he lost the title with a fight this close. thats all. Those judges scores were a joke. i have heard the Jardine/Liddel comparison many times now and to me that is ridiculous cause Jardine won that fight and it was easy to tell. If Rampage was the challenger i wouldn't have given him the belt either and would have kept it with Forrest.
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How was Rampage cocky? I sentence in that whole series because he got screwed in a fight when his team wasn't winning shit and was letting off some steam? That one line and you make him sound like Hector Camacho.
You should see some of the douche bags that come out to the local MMA shows here in town. For those that don't know where Davenport, Iowa is, its neighbor is Bettendorf, Iowa, and if I have to tell you why Bettendorf is relevant to this conversation...:mj07:
Its so bad that I rarely venture out to the shows anymore; skinny, sickly looking dudes that couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper sack looking to show anyone in their sight how "bad" they are. And you'd think they'd be smart enough to steer clear of me and the guys I hang with at these shows--all of us are in shape and have various fighting backgrounds and are not in the least bit intimidated by some skinny punk wearing a Tapout T-shirt--but they don't. Its gotten physical in the past and its just not worth the hassles of possibly getting hurt by some drunk loser who thinks he knows how to fight because he watches MMA fights...
