UFC on FOX 1: "Velasquez vs. Dos Santos", Nov. 12th, Anaheim, California

[layinwood]

Ouch, I would not feel good right now if I had Cain. Now I'm glad the line climbed. He did look very soft and is 5lbs more than what he was vs Brock. That extra 5 didn't look very good on him either.

I still think he wins but I have more doubts now than before. I think if the rumors had been true about him being injured then the line would have taken a big hit. Too many people with too much money that can get that info and want that info. Since weigh ins the line has come back down, looks like people are all thinking he looked too soft.

 

[ukgaz]

Been a steady incline in Cain's weight since he entered the UFC

Today's fight - 249
UFC 121 vs Lesnar - 244
UFC 110 vs Nogueira - 242
UFC 104 vs Rothwell - 238


UFC 99 vs Kongo - 239
UFN vs Stojnic - 239

UFC Fight Night 14 vs O'Brien - 236
UFC 83 vs Morris - 235


I remember a lot of talk about him being to small for HW. I would have liked to see him in the 238-242 range. 7 pounds does not seem like much but it can tell a story

 

[THE_THONG]

gonna throw darts at the over 2.5 +130

if cain or the over hits

i'll be ok

 

[layinwood]

Been a steady incline in Cain's weight since he entered the UFC

Today's fight - 249
UFC 121 vs Lesnar - 244
UFC 110 vs Nogueira - 242
UFC 104 vs Rothwell - 238


UFC 99 vs Kongo - 239
UFN vs Stojnic - 239

UFC Fight Night 14 vs O'Brien - 236
UFC 83 vs Morris - 235


I remember a lot of talk about him being to small for HW. I would have liked to see him in the 238-242 range. 7 pounds does not seem like much but it can tell a story

I'm not big on his weight gain. I've always liked HWs with a speed advantage. Much like Crocop and Fedor had vs most HWs. I guess they're worried with Brock and Carwin being so big but when you look at it the best two(Cain and JDS) aren't that heavy.

REALLY REALLY want to see whoever wins this fight face off against Bones. I could care less about any other fighter moving up because I don't think they stand a chance in a heavier weight but IMO Bones would be exciting at HW. You never know, he may have to move up in a few years. He's still young and should put on some mass.

 

[kickserv]

MMA Record (since UFC 58)
---------------------------------------------
Prop Bet 42-80
Fighter vs. Fighter 295-457
Parlays 120-189

+5.76 Joe Rogans


Junior dos Santos beat Cain Velasquez $2.35 (+135) *1 Joe Rogan

Junior dos Santos wins inside distance $3.00 (+200) *1 Joe Rogan

Mackens Semerzier beat Robert Peralta $2.00 (+100) *1.5 Joe Rogans

Clay Harvison beat DaMarques Johnson $3.40 (+240) *1 Joe Rogan

Cub Swanson beat Ricardo Lamas $2.50 (+150) *1 Joe Rogan


Parlay
----------------------------------------
Cole Escovedo
Dustin Poirer

odds = $2.00 (+100) *2 Joe Rogans

 

[gardenweasel]

so far have henderson pending as the kicker in a par with mark munoz.....also have him parred with gilbert melendez.....

might nibble around the edges with a henderson via sub prop at +350(can`t get that henderson/varner fight out of my mind...varner having success striking and then in the 3rd he falls into a henderson guillotine...with guida shooting,that guillotine is a real possibility).....

also looking at pablo garza at +260 small given his length and submission grappling edges...he`s improved quite a bit in his last two...poirier struggled a bit with jason young and won by out-grappling him....garza`s no world beater...but,his subs are diverse....you can`t make a mistake

the prop and garza would be small,given the odds

hendo parred with several things(with kid yamamoto and pierce*separately* on this card)...hedged by guida wins via 3 rd decision at +368....

small longshots:
garza at +260
hendo by sub +350
hendo-guida fotn +300/main event fotn +175
escovedo/bezerra/horodecki/alvarado parlay(boxing)....

took dos santos small at +140...hate going against a grappler...subject to change...

 

[gardenweasel]

anybody else having trouble pulling up the prelims?

 

[ukgaz]

anybody else having trouble pulling up the prelims?

Nope there was a slight delay but first fight up now

 

[kickserv]

Crystal clear as usual.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

Got a half unit on Rosa

 

[DeFactoCrippler]

Godamn Lucas belongs in bum fights, this is painful to watch :facepalm:

 

[kickserv]

I don't think we will see Lucas in the UFC ever again:facepalm:

 

[ukgaz]

I hope the card gets better. That was not a good start.

Expect Lucas to get cut

 

[gardenweasel]

should get better right here...wish pierce didn`y look so soft at the weigh-in...

he has to stay off his back...

 

[kickserv]

Pierce barely won that fight......:scared

But he got it done.




Cranberries walk-in music for Cole.....nice:00hour

 

[DeFactoCrippler]

Bruce Leroy here to save the whole undercard.

 

[DeFactoCrippler]

:0corn

 

[ukgaz]

Great first round from Caceres.

 

[ukgaz]

Ok who is this guy fighting Cole? This is the best Caceres we have seen

 

[gardenweasel]

leroy looking good...escovedo looks like he left it in the gym...i don`t think he really gives a shit...