UFC on Versus 1:Jones vs Vera

[kickserv]

MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 31-33
Fighter vs. Fighter 185-287
Parlays 87-124

+19.01 Joe Rogans


Paul Buentello beat Cheick Kongo $4.50 (+350) *half Joe Rogan

Shannon Gugerty beat Clay Guida $4.35 (+335) *half Joe Rogan

Chase Gormley beat Brendan Schaub $3.15 (+215) *1 Joe Rogan

Jones wins inside distance $2.85 (+185) *1 Joe Rogan

Junior dos Santos wins in Round 1 $3.50 (+250) *half Joe Rogan

Junior dos Santos wins in Round 2 $3.70 (+270) *half Joe Rogan

Junior dos Santos wins quickest KO/TKO of the night $5.50 (+450) *half Joe Rogan

Buentello wins inside distance $10.62 (+962) *half Joe Rogan

Mike Pierce wins quickest KO/TKO of the night $22.00 (21-1) *half Joe Rogan


Parlay #1
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Vladimir Matyushenko
Junior dos Santos
Jon Jones

odds = $3.15 (+215) *1 Joe Rogan


Parlay #2
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Junior dos Santos
Jon Jones

odds = $2.00 (+100) *3 Joe Rogans


Vera always talks a big game, but when a guy presses him he folds, Vera ain't gonna beat Jones. Sure, Jones is young and has lots to learn, but Jones "will bring it" and Vera will fold (as always). Then after the fight Vera will tell us "what could have happened". Same old, same old with Vera.

Kongo is a stupid fighter, Buentello has a shot, his odds are massive, always a good play to take big odds against a stupid fighter. This match is a "must win" for Kongo, and Kongo could just choke....again.

Clay Guida couldn't finish my grandma, the guy just lays on top of ya and does nothing. I think the judges give him points because of the hair. Gugerty pretty much sucks, but worth a shot at the big odds. Clay Guida may be the most over-hyped fighter in all of MMA. The odds on Gugerty are inflated because so many people think Guida is good. He isn't.

 

[Ghost Kid]

Love on the countdown show how Dos Santos said he watches tape on every opponent and decides where he needs to take the fight

I hate it when guys say "I don't need to watch tape" or "I'm not concerned about him, I only worry about me"

It's such a stupid thing to say. Dos Santos is a guy who takes the sport seriously
:mj06:

 

[kickserv]

Junior Dos Santos

He will beat Cain...........only guy that can beat him is GSP.....:SIB

 

[Ghost Kid]

Gonzaga says he is better on the feet than Dos Santos
This should be fun
:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

 

[layinwood]

u wouldnt care if a guy got there a month ago and his opponent got there on thursday?

Sponge I should have stated why I didn't care about the altitude. This isn't like football or basketball where the Broncos or Thuggets have a clear advantage because they're from there and train there and the other team is just there for one game. These are professional fighters who know going into this what to expect and have adequate time to train for it. I have no way of knowing who did and didn't account for the altitude so I can't factor it in when looking at who wins and loses.

 

[gardenweasel]

so far i`m down with a pierce/guida parlay as the lynchpin......laying a little less than 2-1....i hate doing it...but these look like the best of the bunch,imo...already bet it...

looking at a schaub/kongo/dos santos par with a gonzaga hedge.... .laying 2/3 to win 1


looking at dogs roberts and vera...not sure...still looking..

 

[The Sponge]

These are professional fighters who know going into this what to expect and have adequate time to train for it. QUOTE]

I wouldn't be to sure about that one. How many times we see guys stand with guys they have no business standing with? I bet we hear from at least one possibly two guys who blame the altitude on why he lost. "i didn't think it would be a factor" blah blah blah. I hope the odds stay up on my book right up till fight time because the first time i hear Rogan say something like "Dos Santos brought his camp a month early to deal with the altitude" Im jumpin in. Plus Zaga looks soft as usual so who knows when he got there.

 

[Ghost Kid]

If Kongo loses to Buentello he should never fight again
Every physical advantage in this fight

Buentello looked awful against Struve
Kongo should drop him hard and pound him out of there

Mir and Cain both a totally different level
Buentello is a straight bum

 

[gardenweasel]

consider my previous post as my official picks.....

we got input(i.e.picks) from ke,layin`,kick(all dogs shocker!..lol)...wee weighed in with some nice stuff.....

we need some official opinions from coach k/spongy(fat chance),muhr(c`mon dude,you`re good...give us somethin`)/gmro(been on a roll..produce,my brother),brainiac(the deity from another site...throw down,my man)...boxing guru ghost kid/6`5"...

and bucsnotyucks-rowdy rider(i don`t care if you guys can`t come to a consensus in that shared brain...whoever has the keyboard tonight,please chime in)....

c`mon dudes...sack up...we`re getting bumped by a one-man european cricket thread...

 

[Ghost Kid]

I'm only betting on Kongo and Dos Santos GW
if they win I will take Vera

on the undercard, my picks are Guida, Pierce, Marshall

I couldn't bring myself to bet Sakara, no matter how Irvin looks. I think Sak will win, but his track record against power punchers is poo poo

thats what i got

 

[kegray1]

One parlay in already:

PARLAY:
Jon Jones
Clay Guida
Josh Barnett(Dream)
Frank Mir(UFC 112) over Carwin
200 wins 430

Adding following for the night:

PARLAY:
dos Santos
Jones
100 wins 102

Straight play:
James Irvin(+132) over Sakara by KO/TKO for 100 wins 132. --- I dont think Sakara can KO Irvin, but I think Irvin can indeed KO Sakara despite what Irvin looks like. I doubt these two punchers last 15 minutes.

Also threw in a late try on Chase Gormley(+240) over Brendan Snob for 50 wins 120. -- Gormley is not right in the head.

 

[Ghost Kid]

I would love to see the winner of Kongo/Buentello against Pat Barry....that would be stand up war right there

 

[Ghost Kid]

Undercard started
http://mmajunkie.com/news/18384/ufc-on-versus-1-play-by-play-and-live-results.mma

 

[muhr]

consider my previous post as my official picks.....

we got input(i.e.picks) from ke,layin`,kick(all dogs shocker!..lol)...wee weighed in with some nice stuff.....

we need some official opinions from coach k/spongy(fat chance),muhr(c`mon dude,you`re good...give us somethin`)/gmro(been on a roll..produce,my brother),brainiac(the deity from another site...throw down,my man)...boxing guru ghost kid/6`5"...

and bucsnotyucks-rowdy rider(i don`t care if you guys can`t come to a consensus in that shared brain...whoever has the keyboard tonight,please chime in)....

c`mon dudes...sack up...we`re getting bumped by a one-man european cricket thread...

i'm just a fan right now, so i'm not looking too hard at these fights.

however, i think guida and kongo would be useful in a parlay.

i just don't see those fights having any of the signs of an upset.

 

[gardenweasel]

damn...never got my daniel roberts doggie bet in....

oh well...probably for the best...

 

[The Sponge]

im going Jones pretty big. Just saw an interview where he talked about the weighin and how he won't let being all jacked up effect him. also read were Zaga has been training in high altitude for over a month. Surprised about that one.

Jones for me.

 

[Ghost Kid]

Jason Brilz def. Eric Schafer via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)

 

[gardenweasel]

not much opinion on the board on that one....

here`s a julio paulino highlight reel....very awkward and wild.....short of a big.lucky shot,i`ll be surprised if pierce`s wrestling doesn`t dominate this one....

as wild and hairy as paulino is,takedowns should be there for the taking...

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[The Brainiac]

My gut feeling tells either Jones or Junior will lose , both Gonzaga and Vera have a lot of tools to beat their opponents but they aren't the most mentally strong fighters when things get tough .
Wondering if Ludwig still has anything left as well .

 

[gardenweasel]

30-27 thrice for pierce.....good start...my main stuff keyed off a pierce win....whew...

glad it`s over...