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anyone see anything juicy today?


not sure that fading bubba every which way but loose wouldn't be a good idea......

also think that lefty might really show up this week

currently looking into one that leaped off the page, will be back withinfo if i find any


until later, good luck

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I'm thinking Sergio breaks out this week. Can someone tell me the best price for a top 10 finish and where they found it at. I'm only seeing 7/2 on the site I use.

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big one for the tourney:

DLIII -115 over david toms



would be absolutely shocked if toms was around for the weekend - hard not to like "no" love's current form and i also like the carrot dangling in front of him that is the potential to play his way onto this year's Ryder Cup squad - don't laugh, he currently sits 42nd in the Ryder Cup standings and will undoubtedly leapfrog a lot of folks this week if he can pick up a solid check (double points for majors and i'm sure a lot of people in front of him aren't even in the field this week)

2 golfers moving in opposite directions right now - Toms has played miserably since his solid finish in the Tour Championship including lw at a track that he historically loves - see no reason that will chnage this week - only negative is Love's performance in the 1998 us open at Olympic where he missed the cut by a wide margin, but that was 15 years ago and I'm not going to let that get in the way of this play


as always, good luck


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- - I was at Olympic for the U.S. Open in 1987 and 1998 for all four rounds; also three or four rounds at Medinah (1975 and 1990), Hazeltine (1991), and Olympia Fields (2003). I have a great record that I am proud of in major championships (and The Players) since capping golf on a weekly basis in 2002, including the U.S. Open, with Geoff Ogilvy at either 80/1 or 66/1 in 2006, and Lucas Glover at 200/1 and Ross Fisher at 125/1 in 2009, but I was poor at the 2003 U.S. Open (and subsequent Hazeltine and Medinah P.G.A.'s I have attended) (while Stanley was easily nailing Jim Furyk at Olympia Fields) . . . I'm back again, and I arrived yesterday, exhausted from my brutal work schedule and attending to some necessary family matters before managing to steal away for this two week trip to California, and what I've fashioned for this event comes far more from my thoughts and work over the last 5 months than the last 5 days, and nothing much will change over the next 5 days featuring a hectic schedule of spectating, traveling, golfing, dining, nieces, etc., which will take me even further from my preferred and proven golf capping routines; but I wait, then plan, then anticipate for 5 or more years for these opportunities, and I wouldn't change a thing for a chance to instead sit in front of of my brother-in-laws 50 inch (or is it 60 inch?) 3D television and my computer and get naps in the recliner plus 6 good hours of sleep each night (this Friday night should be my first chance in over 10 days to get at least 6 good hours of sleep at night).


Preliminaries:

- - I need to get something on paper and then get to bed, so before the off I'll be back editing this entry with some addititions and some polishing.

- - In my first visit in 1987 I thought Olympic and San Francisco had a good "vibe" for Europeans, and my thinking on that has never changed. Seve Ballesteros was swashbuckling his way around before enthusiastic fans in 1987 before winning his last major a year later. Lee Westwood was very strong in 1998 as I watched him play the first 36 holes while paired with Tom Watson and Tiger Woods.

- - The head greenskeeper in 1987 said the greens at Olympic are like a Chinese newspaper: "tough to read." The new bent grass greens looked far more consistent and impeccable yesterday, but yesterday on those small surfaces I saw far more 3 putts than I did putts being holed from 12 feet, 20 feet, etc.

- - I'm a U.S. Open geek, and in 1987 I immediately embraced Olympic as one of my favorite U.S. Open venues, and it definitely starts with the camber of the fairways. And it isn't just the reverse cambers on the tee shots (and the second shots) on holes like No. 5 and No. 9 and No. 17 and No. 2 (I love watching the pros miss that fairway with an iron off the tee on that hole, but I miss the claustraphobic feel that came from the big tree on the right that is no longer there) and No. 4, but also the favorable cambers that give you speed slots on holes like No. 1 and No. 10 and No. 6 and even No. 16, that just make it a joy to watch the best golfers in the world trying to hit the shots that present themselves, with appropriate consequences for failing to do so. Brilliant stuff.

- - Anyone who has played golf on the California coast knows that heavy Pacific breezes are never far away.

- - If Geoff Shackelford is surprised at the light rough, I'm surprised at his opinion. Peter Hanson bounced 2 +2 +2 = 6 balls in the rough to the left of the 11th green yesterday and drew 5 atrocious lies that all required different and funky swings to chop out, and he muffed the one shot that found a good lie, and netted only one good shot out of the six. The ball sits up in the rough at Medinah, but that is not the case at Olympic, and is juicy enough all over the course to not have or really need the next level of graduated rough. The rough is bad news and worthy of any U.S. Open test.

- - Mike Davis will be his usual fair self in moving about tees and pins during the week (#16 is one of the great Par 5s in the world from the 1998 tee and doesn't need a new back tee, while the new tee on No 5 maintains the integrity of a great hole; one look at No. 8 and I think it's obvious it is now a tremendous hole at 200 yards, playing way better than the effort Nicklaus produced with No. 5 at Pebble Beach) . . . But Rory went 16 under last year, and I don't think Mike Davis will mind seeing even par being a top shelf round this year. The odds are very, very strong that there isn't enough fog and damp air on the California coast in June to hinder the U.S.G.A. from dialing up exactly the firm and fast greens they want for their championship. Back to back birdies will be a huge charge, with double bogies lurking everywhere. The players will be worn out from the grind come Sunday, the way a U.S. Open is supposed to be.

- - Casey Martin was here in 1998, a chapter in golf which spawned the best thing I've ever written: "Casey Martin claims entitlement to define the parameters of his crucible; to substitute the grind of his disability for the grind of the ancient game. That is the context and the crux of the matter reduced to a single sentence, and this I know: That is not golf." . . . Casey Martin has also found his way back to Olympic this year. After arriving at the airport yesterday, I rushed to the course to meet my entourage at 2:00 p.m. at the clock by the first tee, in order to spend just a few late hours at the course; no surprise at all to me that the third golfer I saw yesterday, and the first one I recognized, was Casey Martin.

- - On four different occasions yesterday I crossed paths with Baldwin (Matthew) playing by himself, and he hit a few nice chips, but the rest of the bad to worse exhibition I saw from him has me committed to opposing him in whatever matchup I can find for Thursday.


Bottom line:


- - Even par will be a great score, and I'm leaning toward it being good enough to win.

- - My Absolute Best Bet of the Week: When the lines come out, I will blindly be taking "Over" with virtually or literally every player on their first round score (whether 70' or 72', etc.). And I am personally familiar enough with the weather in San Francisco in June to know that I do not need to look at any forecasts, as I know it would have 0% chance of changing my mind about my Best Bet.


Outrights (1/4 for 1-2.3-4-5-6):

Tiger Woods(6/1) e.w.

- - Insurance against. And the difficulty this week is a huge boost to the chances of this 3-time champion.

Lee Westwood (12/1) e.w.
- - I was hoping he was about to slip in under the radar, and then he went and won last week, when I should have been betting on him, but I was farr too busy and distracted to gat in any nplays on the European Tour.I think Olympic gives a good vibe for the Europeans. Finding fairways, and shaping shots that miss right are assets at Olympic, and keeping pace with hot putters holing putts from all over is not likely to be the task at hand this weekend. If he can get through the first 71 holes, I actually would cue up Westwood as one of my first choices to navigate the home hole this weekend.

Justin Rose(33/1) e.w.

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Hunter Mahan(40/1) e.w.
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Ryo Ishikawa(33/1 and 1/4 for 1-2-3-4) for Top ROW (Rest of World)
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Kyle Stanley(200/1) e.w.
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Peter Lawrie(200/1 and 1/4 for 1-2-3-4-5) e.w. for 1st Round Leader
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Ryo Ishikawa(150/1 and 1/4 for 1-2-3-4-5) e.w. for 1st Round Leader
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I also have no shortage of long shots and specialty markets plays to play, I'm actually needing to refine and pare them back before posting.


Edit:
- - I'm getting no offers from books on first round scores. Baldwin is matched against Michael Campbell, and I'll stick with a small wager on that. Ryo is not ready to win, but I think he is ready to play well. For the season and in recent weeks, for longshots I have been tracking Cink (not driving well enough), Harrington ("in"), Byrd (despite best play of career, just seems not to have the "Big Boy game" for "Big Boy venues"), Haas (yes and no), Bjorn (I could live with that hunch), Singh (could make a run, but can't see as the winner), Wagner (I could do that one), Levin (U.S.G.A. fits), Oosthuizen and . . . . and a few others. But I'll just add Kyle Stanley (West Coast), and first round hunches on Peter Lawrie and Ryo Ishikawa, and stop holding up my best friend as we head to the championship . . . Really enjoyed being at the baseball game last night for Matt Cain's perfect game . . . I'm always pulling hardest for 5-times a runner-up Mickelson . . . I'l say -2 for the winner, and two players finish under par . . .



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this one jumped out at me as well la, but it looks too easy?


there is some concern that this may be a popular play based on both golfers' play over the past 2-3 weeks, but at the same time i'm not so sure that bettors are flocking to the windows to plop down a lot of hard earned $$ on 48 year old DLIII - to me the normal observer would still see Toms as a player more in his prime than Davis (despite there not being a significant difference in age with Toms being 45 and Love being 48) - despite his poor play in recent weeks Toms is ranked the #42 golfer in the world currently while LoveIII sits at 136 - Toms also 74th in fed ex cup point standings while Love III lies outside of the top 100


so really the line here that opened at basically a pick is based on both players super-recent form (that is over the past 2 weeks as prior to that Toms easily had outplayed Davis in 2012) - and is a line that IMO should have attracted action on both sides

but aside from all of that I just feel that Toms is a player that at this point in his career has a tendency to be "beaten" before he even tees it up for the 1st hole in certain tournaments - guessing that last week he had no intentions of finishing in the bottom 5-10% of the field at a course that he has tamed in the past - and I really don't see how lw's performance can have him thinking any kind of positive thoughts about his chances at a much tougher course this week

on the other hand from what I've seen and heard from Love III I sense a golfer who is confident and excited to try to meet this week's challenge, and a player who honestly thinks that he has a chance to content not only this week but enough in future weeks to seriously contend for a Ryder Cup spot - Love claims that he was unhealthy to start the year and is now feeling much better and just really excited to be able to play and seems to be a player who's competitive fire has been rekindled and I think he really likes that as it has been some time since that fire has been lit


again 2 golfers who, at this point in time at least, seem to be headed in completely opposite directions - does Toms have the ability to come out and hit a lot of fairways and greens if he tweaks something in his swing a bit and finds something he likes? sure, that is the game of golf - but Love's high ball flight and bigger power should both be big advantages this week and like I mentioned I believe the mental side of things side strongly with Love in addition to the physical aspects of each player's current game


no such thing as a sure thing really, and this play certainly has the ability to lose - heck, Love has played a lot of golf over the last couple of weeks b/t the Memorial, Open qualifying and then 4 tough rounds lw in Memphis - but I see something in his eye that tells me that he believes that he has a chance to contend this week - and while I have not been able to look into Toms's eyes I feel confident that I would see something else completely



To all this week, good luck - let us all pray that the USGA learned some lessons from last year's setup and that they make the nec adjustments to make this week what it truly should be -- the toughest test in golf



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Great stuff in the prior two posts

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Love over Toms -125 5d

I went against Toms last week for the stinkiest win, I think, I've ever had. McDowell goes out in the morning and shoots a 5 over, I'm thinking OK, lose. Toms was 4 over in the afternoon flight. A little life however there's no chance, none, that both make the cut. This is going to be over Fri. evening. Next day, Toms fires a sizzling 5 over to pump life into this weird waqer. I'm thinking, I'm going to win this, McDowell is going to shoot near par or under and that will be3 that. No. Graeme starts to leak oil early, then recovers, leaks some more, and wins by one. Sheesh, 8 over beats 9 over.

As it stands right now, there are a dozen guys from the Champions Tour I would take over Toms in an even bet.

I honestly believe it's hard to cap a tournament that travels from course to course. I'm going to go with recent form.

Yesterday, I was doing a job at Stanford, right next to their course. Brought back a lot of memories. I was going to stay a few days and work there, but there was not a motel room anywhere on the peninsula. I put it off until next week. The last time I played Stanford, was in a practice round, one group behind Tom Watson. Winter 1968. I had just got back from the great Asian War that summer.
 

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Mickelson 15-1 win, 7 1/2 place, 3 1/2 show

Kuchar 25-1 win, 12 1/2 place, 6-1 show

Rose 30-1 win, 15-1 place, 7 1/2 show

Poulter 60-1 win, 30-1 place, 15-1 show

P. Hanson 60-1 win, 30-1 place, 15-1 show

Molinari 80-1 win, 40-1 place, 20-1 show

Good luck to all! I can't wait!
 
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ODDS TO WIN US OPEN 2012 RORY MCILROY +1150
ODDS TO WIN US OPEN 2012 MATT KUCHAR +2800
ODDS TO WIN US OPEN 2012 STEVE STRICKER +3300
ODDS TO WIN US OPEN 2012 JIM FURYK +2800
ODDS TO WIN US OPEN 2012 JASON DAY +5000

1st Round Match Up
DA POINTS -120 (DA POINTS vrs K STREELMAN)

4 Round Match Ups
J DAY +120 (A SCOTT vrs J DAY)
J FURYK -125 (J FURYK vrs Z JOHNSON)
 
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Been ice cold so probably better to play the other side!

Peter Hanson +6600 to win

Schwartzel -137 over Day tournament
Peter Hanson -138 over Ogilvy tournament
OostHuizen +0.5 -108 over Dufner round 1
Tiger -160 over Watson round 1
 
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Round 1 play (2pts):

Matt Kuchar to beat Justin Rose +100 @ 5Dimes [also available @ Bet365]
Kuch looks to be a good player to back this week. Not sure if he will win the event this week, though he has stated in interview that this event is the most likely Major that he will win - but he is perfect for match bets at least. Not only does he rank 1st in scoring average, but also leads the Tour in Top-10 Finishes and Consecutive Cuts - he is 'Mr Consistent'. And this week he returns to a course on which he finished 14th as an amaetur in 1998. Add in 6th and 14th in the last two years, a great all-round game and the perfect temperament for a U.S. Open and I'm surprised that he is available at plus-odds. Rose can boast good form as well, but the last cut that he made in this event was in 2007 and at the Media Day for the BMW Championship last week, he stated that he was not playing Crooked Stick as he was too tired from having played the last four weeks, of which two events were in Europe, two events on the PGA Tour. Whereas Rose was spending some time with his family last week recharging the batteries ahead of this week's gruelling test, Kuchar was practising here at the course on Wednesday and Thursday. He has the complete game to cope with a U.S. Open, Rose's achilles heel is his putting and his holing out skills will be severely tested this week.

[unofficial rd1 system play: Simpson tb Bradley +105]
 
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