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so for those who have funds that were deposited via bitcoin and deemed only removable by bitcoin they should have them in a wallet that allows them to purchase a debit card to either keep the funds in the wallet or remove the portion you want.

what's the best wallet and what is the debit card..?

make sense????????


coinbase has shift visa that keeps your bitcoin as bitcoin so you can grow or lose value over time think volatility. looking at long term trend this is my preference.

bitpay is a one way exchange to convert bitcoin to usd at that moments price.

both issued same bank. i work with all prograns and issuing bank in my daily role. great group.
 

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Bitcoin was made to move global scale dollar amounts. it as stated in the white paper was never intended to buy coffee.

HOWEVER

Segregated Witness and Lightening Network will allow side chains for this.

Blockchain is a sewer rat, attacked daily by the worlds best hackers to lay claim to billions of dollars yet its never been breached, nor had a double spend or fraudulent transaction.

for a gambling site, this is a sure bet fellas.
 

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There has never been a moment when the intrinsic value of economies were overlapped in a technology such as distributed ledger; a finite commodity.

If housing burst, bitcoin flows into financial store of value, if financial burst Earnst and Young utilize it for documentation, or medical, or driverless car, or ID verification.

Bitcoin is the gas or token to ride the blockchain. There are 15,000 millionaires in the US alone. There are only 21 million coins ever and most lost or yet mined or locked away in untouched wallets.

Large Banks as of last week admit to mining operations to obtain as much bitcoin as possible. there is a digital currency race similar to the nuclear arms race where Japan (highest debt) was first to legalize it for retail payments, followed by S. korea, Russia, and China.

This is... sips kool aide.... a game changer.

It clicked for me when I read the white paper by Satoshi.

still early.

Thanks for the inside info Woody, good to see you posting. Hope all is well :0008
 

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why would anyone use a decentralized currency such as bitcoin and go through a centralized banking channel????


So you are telling me if you had 20M of bitcoin right now you are not cashing out any, none, zero, to USD? That would be insane, but I guess it would mean you are a true believer.

I was talking about you the other day, about how I knew the industry you worked in and that you were talking about bitcoin long, long ago, and that I should have put that together and taken a risk. Such is life.

You mentioned that there are x number of "Millionaires"- maybe we should refer to them as bitcoinaires- because until you make the material exchange to dollars, the figure on the paper is meaningless.

I still would love to know how all of those people with millions in BTC are going to get it over to a more exchangeable currency. I know, I know. BTC will make the need for an more fluid currency irrelevant. But suppose someone wants to cash out- no way it happens below the radar unless you do some serious international work.
 

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So you are telling me if you had 20M of bitcoin right now you are not cashing out any, none, zero, to USD? That would be insane, but I guess it would mean you are a true believer.

I was talking about you the other day, about how I knew the industry you worked in and that you were talking about bitcoin long, long ago, and that I should have put that together and taken a risk. Such is life.

You mentioned that there are x number of "Millionaires"- maybe we should refer to them as bitcoinaires- because until you make the material exchange to dollars, the figure on the paper is meaningless.

I still would love to know how all of those people with millions in BTC are going to get it over to a more exchangeable currency. I know, I know. BTC will make the need for an more fluid currency irrelevant. But suppose someone wants to cash out- no way it happens below the radar unless you do some serious international work.

Over the counter Saint. Off the Exchange...
 

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I bought 10,0000 Strat at .10 in March. It's at $5.50. What if it goes to a $100 which is similar to Ethereum? $1,000 purchase that Rick IS included in could be a million dollar investment in just 6 months...

just one real example of several.

Just sayin... instead of thinking how do I get my money out?
Why aren't you saying how do I get it in?

We've met, you do well, I do well. But this is different level.

I'm not sure of another thread in MJ history that paid what mine has...

This pays everyone, cue Oprah.
 

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Yep.

Should I be worried that you're not talking about ripple? You still long on xrp?


I've learned very quickly success breeds sour grapes to those given an opportunity and not taken it. A dozen people at work went in and a dozen did not. It created a chasm if you will regarding discussion.

I tend to focus communicate on new ventures and leave the successes out once they've gone 1000x.

I expected you to be involved ;) Immutability is a powerful thing. t holds people accountable.
 

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Over the counter Saint. Off the Exchange...

Don't understand. Elaborate.

No hatin here man. Like I said you came up in A conversation with friends recently. As if it's not hard enough discussing and explaining what bitcoin is I had to compound the problem and then talk about my "Internet friend". Like I've said I'm a gambler and I've blown lots of money in many different venues and I was a moron not to follow you knowing you're backing in the credit card industry and the knowledge that you had. I wish you continued success I just want to understand when it reaches seven figures and up how you get the actual cash outwithout triggering the IRS. At my income level audits are inevitable and I'm not one to jump in feet first without understanding how to get out
 

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Don't understand. Elaborate.

No hatin here man. Like I said you came up in A conversation with friends recently. As if it's not hard enough discussing and explaining what bitcoin is I had to compound the problem and then talk about my "Internet friend". Like I've said I'm a gambler and I've blown lots of money in many different venues and I was a moron not to follow you knowing you're backing in the credit card industry and the knowledge that you had. I wish you continued success I just want to understand when it reaches seven figures and up how you get the actual cash outwithout triggering the IRS. At my income level audits are inevitable and I'm not one to jump in feet first without understanding how to get out

I've got 10k play money sitting idle I'm fine with if it goes to zero. I have no interest in buying BTC at the current value. What do I buy and how much?
 

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Bobby, xrp and STR about to go for All Time Highs. STR to 2700 for sure


Saint, no harm my man. I'm in no means taking you as anything other than interested in understanding. Will do my best to help in due time. Right now, busy trading.
 

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Bobby, xrp and STR about to go for All Time Highs. STR to 2700 for sure


Saint, no harm my man. I'm in no means taking you as anything other than interested in understanding. Will do my best to help in due time. Right now, busy trading.

Just to clarify. Stratia currently like 6$. You think it gets to 2700? So my 10k turns into 4M? What time frame we talking.
 

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What exchange can we buy STR and XRP on ?:0008
 

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Interesting read on Beanie Babies and BitCoin

Interesting read on Beanie Babies and BitCoin

You see the primary dynamic is continued skepticism from the mainstream, which owns essentially no cryptocurrency and conventionally views bitcoin and its peers as fads, scams and bubbles that will soon pop as price crashes back to near-zero.

Skepticism is always a wise default position to start one's inquiry, but if no knowledge is being acquired, skepticism quickly morphs into stubborn ignorance.

Bitcoin et al. are not the equivalent of Beanie Babies. Cryptocurrencies have utility value. They facilitate international payments for goods and services.

The primary cryptocurrencies are not a scam. Advertising a flawless Beanie Baby and shipping a defective Beanie Baby is a scam. Advertising a mortgage-backed security as low-risk and delivering a guaranteed-to-default stew of toxic mortgages is a scam.

The primary cryptocurrencies (bitcoin, Ethereum and Dash) have transparent rules for emitting currency. The core characteristic of a scam is the asymmetry between what the seller knows (the product is garbage) and what the buyer knows (garsh, this mortgage-backed security is low-risk--look at the rating).

Both buyers and sellers of primary cryptocurrencies are in a WYSIWYG market: what you see is what you get. While a Beanie Baby scam might use cryptocurrencies as a means of exchange, this doesn't make primary cryptocurrencies a scam, any more than using dollars to transact a scam makes the dollar itself a scam.

Bubbles occur when everyone and their sister is trading/buying into a "hot" market. Bubbles pop when the pool of greater fools willing and able to pay nose-bleed valuations runs dry. In other words, when everyone with the desire and means to buy in and has already bought in, there's nobody left to buy in at a higher price (except for central banks, of course).

At that point, normal selling quickly pushes prices off the cliff as there is no longer a bid from buyers, only frantic sellers trying to cash in their winnings at the gambling hall.

While a few of my global correspondents own/use the primary cryptocurrencies, and a few speculate in the pool of hundreds of lesser cryptocurrencies, I know of only one friend/ relative /colleague / neighbor who owns cryptocurrency.

When only one of your circle of acquaintances, colleagues, friends, neighbors and extended family own an asset, there is no way that asset can be in a bubble, as the pool of potential buyers is thousands of times larger than the pool of present owners.

I discussed The Network Effect last year: The Network Effect, Jobs and Entrepreneurial Vitality (April 7, 2016):

The Network Effect is expressed mathematically in Metcalfe's Law: the value of a communications network is proportional to the square of the number of connected devices/users of the system.



The Network Effect cannot be fully captured by Metcalfe's Law, as the value of the network rises with the number of users in communication with others and with the synergies created by networks of users within the larger network, for example, ecosystems of suppliers and customers.

In other words, the Network Effect is not simply the value created by connected users; more importantly, it is the value created by the information and knowledge shared by users in sub-networks and in the entire network.

This is The Smith Corollary to Metcalfe's Law: the value of the network is created not just by the number of connected devices/users but by the value of the information and knowledge shared by users in sub-networks and in the entire network.

In the context of the primary cryptocurrencies, the network effect (and The Smith Corollary to Metcalfe's Law) is one core driver of valuation: the more individuals and organizations that start using cryptocurrencies, the higher the utility value and financial value of those networks (cryptocurrencies).

In other words, cryptocurrencies are not just stores of value and means of exchange--they are networks.

The true potential value of cryptocurrencies will not become visible until the global economy experiences a catastrophic collapse of debt and/or a major fiat currency. These events are already baked into the future, in my view; nothing can possibly alter the eventual collapse of the current debt/credit bubble and the fiat currencies that are being issued to inflate those bubbles.

The skeptics will continue declaring bitcoin a bubble that's bound to pop at $3,000, $5,000, $10,000 and beyond. When the skeptics fall silent, the potential for a bubble will be in place.

When all the former skeptics start buying in at any price, just to preserve what's left of their fast-melting purchasing power in other currencies, then we might see the beginning stages of a real bubble.

The wild card in cryptocurrencies is the role of Big Institutional Money. When hedge funds, insurance companies, corporations, investment banks, sovereign wealth funds etc. start adding bitcoin et al. as core institutional holdings, the price may well surprise all but the most giddy prognosticators.

The Network Effect can become geometric/exponential very quickly. It's something to ponder while researching the subject with a healthy skepticism.
 

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What exchange can we buy STR and XRP on ?:0008

poloniex.com
bittrex.com

xrp and str tied to ripple.com. read up on xrp
sc - decentralized web service
dgb - identity, gaming
stratis - platform
factom - accountability
 

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youre talking about a doll, when these are multimillion dollar companies, rochard brandt, elon musk...

world leaders and you copy a shitty 800 page beanie baby article


you dont think for yourself. dont waste my time vomiting others words



no time
 
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