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I'm curious as to WHY Alexander Povetkin was suddenly dropped from the IBF ratings, and the fight with Wlad was scrapped? I don't have any respect for any of the rating bodies and nothing they do surprises me, but he was the number 1 contender forever. Now, just a couple months away from a signed title fight, he is suddenly dropped from the ratings entirely, and now Wlad is facing Sam Peter.

I think Povetkin would have taken a beating anyhow, but I never heard anything about why this was done.

I think it was obvious that Teddy didn't want that fight. It was obvious from interviw with Steve Kim and later on ESPN he confirmed he advised Alex not to fight.
He thinks he Alex is not ready yet. I agree. I think he will never be ready. Guy is olimpic gold medalist and he is 30 years old. He definitely doesn't fight enough times a year with Teddy in his corner to improve.
Too bad. Vlad was -500 on some sites and I loved that line.
 

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I'm also taking a chance with Pirog. I've seen some footage and he's a very well schooled fighter. He's fought tougher comp than Jacobs and has been rather impressive. Jacobs had trouble with Smith and his power doesn't quite match his ko %. If Pirog gets out of the early going unfazed then I think he wins. Lrge +135.
OHH BOY, I HATE READING THIS :scared

Once again I am going against the board on this fight.
I am BIG on Jacobs.

Pirog looks the goods, is a cracking body puncher, has a great workrate for 12 rounds and is a good switch-hitter BUT it seems to me that most of his best wins have come against older, SLOWER, 154 pounders.
I believe Ishe is a better 154 pounder than anyone Pirog has faced.

I don't think that the Mayweather shoulder roll with the left hand low is going to work as well against someone as fast as Jacobs. I won't be surprised to see him get dummied with right hands that he normally avoids.

Jacobs is ALSO a wicked body puncher. Maybe Pirog's workrate won't be as good when he is actually being hit by a big middleweight.

This is only his second fight outside Russia and the first time was basically a home fight in Germany.
This is his chance to shine on the big stage, who knows how this will affect his nerves.

GBP is looking at Jacobs as their future star. Don't expect any favours for an unknown Russian on their promotion.

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"the bunker"
being that the line on jacobs/russkie was so even,i was hoping i could find something on video that would swing my opinion....

but i really can`t..i think the risskie is talented....and i don`t think that jacobs is as good as advertized...but the favorable venue and promotion....and the russkie finding himself in an "unnatural circumstance"(away from home and not about to get any favors) makes this a tough call....
 

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"the bunker"
ring magazine seems to be becoming irrelevant..they rate bute the #1 super middleweight?......

i thought you had to beat top echelon fighters in your weight class to be rated #1?....his best win is vs bika?......his first win over limited andrade was so tainted they had to have a do-over(of course back in canada again)...

yet because he`s a padded 23-0 he`s #1?...

he`s never had a significant fight outside canada?....he`s fought none of the super 6.....i get that they`re out of bounds while involved in the tourney..but until he actually faces the top fighters in the division,this guy shouldn`t even sniff #1...


they`re literally spitting on the guys that are willing to put it all on the line to try and show they`re #1(ward,kessler,abraham,frochdirrell) by doing it vs the best inside the ring......and by having to win on foreign or neutral soil....

good lord....what an insult...what a sham..
 
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ring magazine seems to be becoming irrelevant..they rate bute the #1 super middleweight?......

i thought you had to beat top echelon fighters in your weight class to be rated #1?....his best win is vs bika?......his first win over limited andrade was so tainted they had to have a do-over(of course back in canada again)...

yet because he`s a padded 23-0 he`s #1?...

he`s never had a significant fight outside canada?....he`s fought none of the super 6.....i get that they`re out of bounds while involved in the tourney..but until he actually faces the top fighters in the division,this guy shouldn`t even sniff #1...


they`re literally spitting on the guys that are willing to put it all on the line to try and show they`re #1(ward,kessler,abraham,frochdirrell) by doing it vs the best inside the ring......and by having to win on foreign or neutral soil....

good lord....what an insult...what a sham..

Bute may be the best SM in the world, but I agree with you Weasel. You've got to face the best to be the best, and Bute has not done that as of yet. I wonder why he wasn't in the super 6? Was he not asked or did he not agree?
 

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Bute may be the best SM in the world, but I agree with you Weasel. You've got to face the best to be the best, and Bute has not done that as of yet. I wonder why he wasn't in the super 6? Was he not asked or did he not agree?

He was asked and was only one who said no. He is a draw in Canada and is making more money not risking much this way. Shame. I hold it against him and I agree with GW points.
 

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He was asked and was only one who said no. He is a draw in Canada and is making more money not risking much this way. Shame. I hold it against him and I agree with GW points.

Bute has certainly been razor sharp as of late. And I do hope he takes on the Andre's and King Arthur down the road.

I don't care about Kessler and Froch. Kessler fading and Froch simply not good enough.
 

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Diaz looks really trim!

I'm really impressed!!
 
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Early line for November

Early line for November

First line I have seen listed on this:

Light Middleweight 12 rounds - must occur in Las Vegas, Nevada for action -

HBO PPV
Sat 11/13101

Antonio Margarito
+450
Manny Pacquiao
-750

o9? +135
u9? -175
 

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First line I have seen listed on this:

Light Middleweight 12 rounds - must occur in Las Vegas, Nevada for action -

HBO PPV
Sat 11/13101

Antonio Margarito
+450
Manny Pacquiao
-750

o9? +135
u9? -175

That's wild. If you saw this line in 2008 when Pac struggled with Juan Marquez and Margarito smashed undefeated Cotto, you would have questioned what planet the line came from. Wow, how perceptions. and some realities, can change in a short time.

Pac probably too quick and all the rest but Margarito looked awfully rugged in a recent pic on fightnews. He could pac his biggest struggle yet in the higher divisions.
 

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OHH BOY, I HATE READING THIS :scared

Once again I am going against the board on this fight.
I am BIG on Jacobs.

Pirog looks the goods, is a cracking body puncher, has a great workrate for 12 rounds and is a good switch-hitter BUT it seems to me that most of his best wins have come against older, SLOWER, 154 pounders.
I believe Ishe is a better 154 pounder than anyone Pirog has faced.

I don't think that the Mayweather shoulder roll with the left hand low is going to work as well against someone as fast as Jacobs. I won't be surprised to see him get dummied with right hands that he normally avoids.

Jacobs is ALSO a wicked body puncher. Maybe Pirog's workrate won't be as good when he is actually being hit by a big middleweight.

This is only his second fight outside Russia and the first time was basically a home fight in Germany.
This is his chance to shine on the big stage, who knows how this will affect his nerves.

GBP is looking at Jacobs as their future star. Don't expect any favours for an unknown Russian on their promotion.

:toast:

If it makes you feel any better, I bought some of the wager back. It's no longer a lrg wager for me. The line on Pirog is getting better... +160 on 1 site. I still think he's live but if it's a close one, GBP could very well have some influence on the dec. I'm just not sold that Jacobs is THE real deal. I don't see him as being a special fighter. A lot of good cappers are big on Jacobs though. I'm putting my dough on some other fights so if Pirog doesn't come through, I can still show a profit. Good luck to you Brother!
 

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Oscar the Octopus has spoken

Oscar the Octopus has spoken

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