Boxing; Cotto-Pac-man

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you fawking pussys are betting on concert tickets

:142smilie :sadwave:

use your heads for something besides a hat rack

Cotto is in there to set up the biggest fight in history with Floyd Jr and Pacman. '

We all know how boxing works. Its all about the money.

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Thanks for the kind words, as usual. I'm sure all the guys appreciate your warmth and charm.
 

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Thanks for the kind words, as usual. I'm sure all the guys appreciate your warmth and charm.

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there is nothing warm and charming about the

fight business .....

nothing

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i really want to take these ridiculous (imo) odds on cotto....but one thing bothers me....

manny has an experienced,world renowned trainer in roach...an ex-boxer who`s experienced this...actually lived it....

cotto has a neophyte trainer who`s there because of a disagreement with his ex-trainer......seems to me,that cotto may well be training himself...after watching 24-7,i get the feeling that cotto calls all the shots without much blowback from anyone....and you need a critical eye....

freddie isn`t afraid to buck manny and let his opinions be known....freddie runs the show(boxing/training-wise),or so it seems...

as i`ve said before,i think that freddie is manny`s secret weapon....
 
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i really want to take these ridiculous (imo) odds on cotto....but one thing bothers me....

manny has an experienced,world renowned trainer in roach...an ex-boxer who`s experienced this...actually lived it....

cotto has a neophyte trainer who`s there because of a disagreement with his ex-trainer......seems to me,that cotto may well be training himself...after watching 24-7,i get the feeling that cotto calls all the shots without much blowback from anyone....and you need a critical eye....

freddie isn`t afraid to buck manny and let his opinions be known....freddie runs the show(boxing/training-wise),or so it seems...

as i`ve said before,i think that freddie is manny`s secret weapon....
Sorry mate, I don't agree.
How many times have we heard "Roach is unhappy as Pac choses to train in Manilla" or "Roach is unhappy as Pac does not come to Wildcard as scheduled".
Pac is his own man.

I don't think it makes a difference that Cotto is no longer with his Uncle as I believe they hated each other and barely spoke during camp anyway.

I was sooooo impressed with Cotto's speed in the Mosley fight that I think, if he can produce the same, Pac is going to be run over.

Cotto looked much better at the weigh in than I expected.

Pac arranging to be Barry Manilow after the fight.

All spells Cotto in 4 rounds!!!!!!!!!!!!

I won't be surprised if Pac does his ring walk wearing a monkey suit and shades!!!

Good luck :toast:
 

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Sorry mate, I don't agree.
How many times have we heard "Roach is unhappy as Pac choses to train in Manilla" or "Roach is unhappy as Pac does not come to Wildcard as scheduled".
Pac is his own man.

I don't think it makes a difference that Cotto is no longer with his Uncle as I believe they hated each other and barely spoke during camp anyway.

I was sooooo impressed with Cotto's speed in the Mosley fight that I think, if he can produce the same, Pac is going to be run over.

Cotto looked much better at the weigh in than I expected.

Pac arranging to be Barry Manilow after the fight.

All spells Cotto in 4 rounds!!!!!!!!!!!!

I won't be surprised if Pac does his ring walk wearing a monkey suit and shades!!!

Good luck :toast:

i don`t really think we disagree all that much,wee...i think the manny concert gig is ridiculous...bad mojo....

and the fact that imo,manny has yet to be hit consistently by a legit 147 pounder..we really don`t know whether manny can handle a real 147 pounder who will hit him consistently...it didn`t happen with odlh or hatton...

and the jab of cotto...we saw it vs mosely...he has a quick, brutal jab...marquez did some real ,solid business with the jab vs manny.....

i just believe that manny has real consistency in his corner with roach..real raport and experience...big corner edge to manny..just my opinion...


but,i`ll be taking those odds with cotto...+255?....that`s shocking to me...maybe the books are sucking us in?..maybe the phillipino contingent is moving the line?....

whatever...the hook is firmly implanted in my cheek...:shrug:

it doesn`t cost very much to take the shot at those odds...
 

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I think +400 and change on Pac by decision is ridiculous money. I see Pac hitting and jumping out of range before Cotto can land big on him. Those aren't the kind of power shots that will take a guy like Cotto out. Are people really betting chalk based on Cotto being TKO'd on cuts?
 

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In 24/7 Cotto seemed to have a camp with less distractions and more focus than Pacquaio, but his sparring partners were not as talented or challenging to him as pacquiao.

Pacquiao's camp seem very chaotic with sparring partners coming in tiring to take his head off.

I think Cotto had better preparation just based off the show, and that will make it even hadder for Pacquaio to win.

I still like Pac-Man to win in 8-9 rounds, but this will not be an easy night for either guy.

Maybe Mayweather will fight the winner then.

Good Luck Guys
 

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I think +400 and change on Pac by decision is ridiculous money. I see Pac hitting and jumping out of range before Cotto can land big on him. Those aren't the kind of power shots that will take a guy like Cotto out. Are people really betting chalk based on Cotto being TKO'd on cuts?

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Call it riveting reality TV or a genius marketing ploy, HBO's 24/7 series has done as much to rejuvenate interest in boxing as the bouts it features.

The four-part series takes viewers inside the workings of fighters' training camps, allowing casual fans to watch a boxer's everyday grind as well as their family and business life. The popular show has drawn in a new audience to the sport and increased pay-per-view buys, but has also had a significant impact on the amount of betting action for those fights.

According to renowned boxing linesmaker, Joey Oddessa, HBO's 24/7 has doubled the wagering volume on those featured events. And more importantly, it has sportsbooks writing more tickets for the underdog, balancing out the action and giving books just what they want.

The most recent installment of 24/7 chronicles the weeks leading up to Saturday's 145-pound catchweight battle between Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto. Oddsmakers have priced Pacquiao as a -240 favorite, however, HBO's producers have done a terrific job making this weekend's bout seem like an even fight.

There is sharp and public money coming in on Cotto, who is listed at +190, due to a slight rise in Pacquiao's odds but also a casual fanbase that has watched the show and has fallen in love with the underdog.

?The square money has generally been on the underdogs because of the tremendous job HBO does in making the bouts look even,? Oddessa says about past fights featured by 24/7.

The reality series began in April 2007, showcasing Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Oscar De La Hoya's Super Welterweight bout. While that fight was the biggest take for sportsbooks, the 24/7 series has benefited other matches more.

It has helped introduce the casual American boxing audience to overseas talents like British fighter Ricky Hatton, who was featured for his bout with Mayweather in December 2007, and Welsh boxer Joe Calzaghe, who was part of 24/7 for his fight with Roy Jones Jr. in November of last year.

Repeat viewers of the show are very familiar with Pacquiao, who has been featured in three of the last four 24/7 series. The Filipino star has won 10 straight fights going back to 2005. He has marquee victories over ?rik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel M?rquez, David Diaz, De La Hoya and most recently Hatton, who Pacquiao defeated in stunning knockout fashion.

Even more impressive is the fact that Pacquiao can become the first fighter to win seven championships in seven different weight classes with a win over Cotto Saturday. His fanbase has grown with the popularity of the show as well as his dominant performances inside the ring in his last three bouts.

Cotto, on the other hand, has been on a decline since losing to Antonio Margarito in July 2008. His most recent bout was a split decision over Joshua Clottey in June which has been followed by drama and legal troubles between the Puerto Rican fighter and former trainer and uncle Evangelista Cotto.

?A motivated and healthy Miguel Cotto presents problems to any fighter and has all the skills needed to upset Manny Pacquiao but it's impossible to tell which Cotto we will see Saturday night,? says Oddessa.

Oddsmakers have set Saturday's round total at 9.5. Boxing fans can watch the action live on pay-per-view from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. The card begins at 9 p.m. ET.
 

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Scott said it right it is all about the bucks in boxing and i know this for a fact yes a fact, i go see lot of work-outs here in vegas with some great old time boxing minds, i have been tought the inns and outs of the sports dirty side, you can read all you want I have been taught what to look for in person , not meaning to sound like a smart ass but it is the truth of a dirty sport ran by cash.

You know how I played almost as well as inside the distance. Got tickets ring side from jeri for birthday will be leaving about 2 pm,

You are right scott.
 

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Sponge, did you really compose this??? I see lots of correct grammar and punctuation so I have my doubts. Pac-man is SOOOOO used to having it go his way, I wonder if Cotto removes him fron his comfort zone, will he give up and start to cry? I see Pac-man crying either way; win or lose. Pac's last two wins were a cake walk so I suspect he feels this is just another excercise in futility for his opponent. Official prediction: Cotto/OVER 9.5.
 

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it won't be a cake walk that's for sure. Make no-mistake cotto will fight but the money is the factor and roach also but money is key i played it very early.
 

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Scott said it right it is all about the bucks in boxing and i know this for a fact yes a fact, i go see lot of work-outs here in vegas with some great old time boxing minds, i have been tought the inns and outs of the sports dirty side, you can read all you want I have been taught what to look for in person , not meaning to sound like a smart ass but it is the truth of a dirty sport ran by cash.

You know how I played almost as well as inside the distance. Got tickets ring side from jeri for birthday will be leaving about 2 pm,

You are right scott.
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you the man fletcher.

it is one of my life goals to be close to ringside at a championship fight like this.

gl on your wagers and have a good time at the fight.
 

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Call it riveting reality TV or a genius marketing ploy, HBO's 24/7 series has done as much to rejuvenate interest in boxing as the bouts it features.

The four-part series takes viewers inside the workings of fighters' training camps, allowing casual fans to watch a boxer's everyday grind as well as their family and business life. The popular show has drawn in a new audience to the sport and increased pay-per-view buys, but has also had a significant impact on the amount of betting action for those fights.

According to renowned boxing linesmaker, Joey Oddessa, HBO's 24/7 has doubled the wagering volume on those featured events. And more importantly, it has sportsbooks writing more tickets for the underdog, balancing out the action and giving books just what they want.

The most recent installment of 24/7 chronicles the weeks leading up to Saturday's 145-pound catchweight battle between Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto. Oddsmakers have priced Pacquiao as a -240 favorite, however, HBO's producers have done a terrific job making this weekend's bout seem like an even fight.

There is sharp and public money coming in on Cotto, who is listed at +190, due to a slight rise in Pacquiao's odds but also a casual fanbase that has watched the show and has fallen in love with the underdog.

?The square money has generally been on the underdogs because of the tremendous job HBO does in making the bouts look even,? Oddessa says about past fights featured by 24/7.

The reality series began in April 2007, showcasing Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Oscar De La Hoya's Super Welterweight bout. While that fight was the biggest take for sportsbooks, the 24/7 series has benefited other matches more.

It has helped introduce the casual American boxing audience to overseas talents like British fighter Ricky Hatton, who was featured for his bout with Mayweather in December 2007, and Welsh boxer Joe Calzaghe, who was part of 24/7 for his fight with Roy Jones Jr. in November of last year.

Repeat viewers of the show are very familiar with Pacquiao, who has been featured in three of the last four 24/7 series. The Filipino star has won 10 straight fights going back to 2005. He has marquee victories over ?rik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel M?rquez, David Diaz, De La Hoya and most recently Hatton, who Pacquiao defeated in stunning knockout fashion.

Even more impressive is the fact that Pacquiao can become the first fighter to win seven championships in seven different weight classes with a win over Cotto Saturday. His fanbase has grown with the popularity of the show as well as his dominant performances inside the ring in his last three bouts.

Cotto, on the other hand, has been on a decline since losing to Antonio Margarito in July 2008. His most recent bout was a split decision over Joshua Clottey in June which has been followed by drama and legal troubles between the Puerto Rican fighter and former trainer and uncle Evangelista Cotto.

?A motivated and healthy Miguel Cotto presents problems to any fighter and has all the skills needed to upset Manny Pacquiao but it's impossible to tell which Cotto we will see Saturday night,? says Oddessa.

Oddsmakers have set Saturday's round total at 9.5. Boxing fans can watch the action live on pay-per-view from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. The card begins at 9 p.m. ET.
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thats called plagerizing and you can go to jail for
that Sponge.

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Pac is a good champ but this smells of arrogance to me. I don't like it one bit. I hope Cotto sings him a fuking lullabye.
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hey franky

if you want to smell arrogance smell under your
armpit.

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Anybody know where we can watch this online tonight?

The usual spots like justintv and adthe be any good?
 
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