British Open
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I'll try weather You find find closer source from here. Unfamiliar with UK. Does have hourly projection.
http://www.weather.co.uk/weather/local/UKXX0052
I'll try weather You find find closer source from here. Unfamiliar with UK. Does have hourly projection.
http://www.weather.co.uk/weather/local/UKXX0052
72-Hole Matchups:
72-Hole Matchups:
Lonard v C Smith 5/6 @ Hills 4 Units
Lonard has played and made the cut comfortably in 3 Opens. This will be Smiths first trip to the Open on the back of playing in the GMO last week, hardly ideal preparation. Lonard has been a model of consistency this season while proving he has the game to play tough tracks well. 2nd rd 84 at the Loch can be excused and should have given him a chance to shake off the jet-lag and prepare for this week. Has stated he has the game to suit Open conditions. This is likely to prove a rude awakening for Smith on his debut.
Toms v Duval 10/11 @ Sportingbet 3 Units
Duval and Westwood have been the best 'fade fodder' all season. Toms has once again shown great consistency all season. A course demanding creativity, strategy, shot-making and excellent putting fits like a glove. Duval has become erattic, withdrawn and disturbingly poor in the past 12 months. I'd be shocked to see him near the top-15 this week.
Faxon v Langer 9/10 @ Ladbrokes 2.5 Units
Langers yr is going from bad to worse. Still hasn't shot a rd in the 60s since mid-April. Shadow of last yr. Faxons short game should carry him through to a t-30 place this week. Looks like Langer is gunna be stuggling with the cut once again.
Garcia v Goosen 1.83 @ Bet365 2.5 Units
Garica won the British Amateur here in 98. Has always looked like he has the perfect game for the Open. Should well step-up to Tiger this week. Goosen is still having some issues with his swing and his putting has regressed in recent months also.
72-Hole Matchups:
Lonard v C Smith 5/6 @ Hills 4 Units
Lonard has played and made the cut comfortably in 3 Opens. This will be Smiths first trip to the Open on the back of playing in the GMO last week, hardly ideal preparation. Lonard has been a model of consistency this season while proving he has the game to play tough tracks well. 2nd rd 84 at the Loch can be excused and should have given him a chance to shake off the jet-lag and prepare for this week. Has stated he has the game to suit Open conditions. This is likely to prove a rude awakening for Smith on his debut.
Toms v Duval 10/11 @ Sportingbet 3 Units
Duval and Westwood have been the best 'fade fodder' all season. Toms has once again shown great consistency all season. A course demanding creativity, strategy, shot-making and excellent putting fits like a glove. Duval has become erattic, withdrawn and disturbingly poor in the past 12 months. I'd be shocked to see him near the top-15 this week.
Faxon v Langer 9/10 @ Ladbrokes 2.5 Units
Langers yr is going from bad to worse. Still hasn't shot a rd in the 60s since mid-April. Shadow of last yr. Faxons short game should carry him through to a t-30 place this week. Looks like Langer is gunna be stuggling with the cut once again.
Garcia v Goosen 1.83 @ Bet365 2.5 Units
Garica won the British Amateur here in 98. Has always looked like he has the perfect game for the Open. Should well step-up to Tiger this week. Goosen is still having some issues with his swing and his putting has regressed in recent months also.
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Will take some time to get back up to speed, but here goes ...
Outright plays (1.5 units)
Sergio Garcia to win 20/1 e.w. @ Five Dimes (.75 units to win & .75 units to finish in top-5) or Sporting Odds among others
The nightmare of Carnoustie has long been forgotten and he has proved on other occasions (Irish Open, Dunhill Cup, Loch Lomond Invitational) that he is a good links player. Won't make for enjoyable viewing, but Garcia is certainly a future major winner and warrants attention in the full market.
Padraig Harrington to win 33/1 e.w. @ Five Dimes (.75 units to win & .75 units to finish in top-5) among others
The next two would be prime candidates for the 'w/o Woods' market every time, but there is a substantial drop in odds for these players in these markets and I think this is the major that Woods would have found the hardest to win this year. Extremely consistent player - apart from a missed cut at the Volvo PGA, he has finished no worse than 12th in any event since the beginning of April, and that run includes two majors - he is another good links and wind player. With two good weeks in Ireland behind him, he is a very strong candidate to be in contention on the final day.
Davis Love to win 33/1 e.w. @ Five Dimes (.75 units to win & .75 units to finish in top-5) or Bet365 among others
Impossible to ignore his record in this event. His 21st place finish last year was his worst, by some distance, result in the past five years. He has also been in great form in the past three months, having lead in the Masters, secured two top-five finishes in the next month and finished runners-up on both his last two outings. Like Harrington, he does not convert his chances often enough, but completes a trio of proven links and wind players
Outright plays (1.5 units)
Sergio Garcia to win 20/1 e.w. @ Five Dimes (.75 units to win & .75 units to finish in top-5) or Sporting Odds among others
The nightmare of Carnoustie has long been forgotten and he has proved on other occasions (Irish Open, Dunhill Cup, Loch Lomond Invitational) that he is a good links player. Won't make for enjoyable viewing, but Garcia is certainly a future major winner and warrants attention in the full market.
Padraig Harrington to win 33/1 e.w. @ Five Dimes (.75 units to win & .75 units to finish in top-5) among others
The next two would be prime candidates for the 'w/o Woods' market every time, but there is a substantial drop in odds for these players in these markets and I think this is the major that Woods would have found the hardest to win this year. Extremely consistent player - apart from a missed cut at the Volvo PGA, he has finished no worse than 12th in any event since the beginning of April, and that run includes two majors - he is another good links and wind player. With two good weeks in Ireland behind him, he is a very strong candidate to be in contention on the final day.
Davis Love to win 33/1 e.w. @ Five Dimes (.75 units to win & .75 units to finish in top-5) or Bet365 among others
Impossible to ignore his record in this event. His 21st place finish last year was his worst, by some distance, result in the past five years. He has also been in great form in the past three months, having lead in the Masters, secured two top-five finishes in the next month and finished runners-up on both his last two outings. Like Harrington, he does not convert his chances often enough, but completes a trio of proven links and wind players
One or two interesting offers on The Open.
Paddy Power:
We'll refund all losing outright single bets if Duval (last year's winner) finishes within 3 shots of the overall winner. Outright win or e/w singles only, placed pre-tournament start. Max refund per customer ?200/?300.
Coral
Special Concession - Stakes will be Returned on all of this year's Ryder Cup Team members missing the halfway cut (Players marked "**")
Bet247
1/4 lst 6 places.
Paddy Power:
We'll refund all losing outright single bets if Duval (last year's winner) finishes within 3 shots of the overall winner. Outright win or e/w singles only, placed pre-tournament start. Max refund per customer ?200/?300.
Coral
Special Concession - Stakes will be Returned on all of this year's Ryder Cup Team members missing the halfway cut (Players marked "**")
Bet247
1/4 lst 6 places.
Daly to make cut.....?
Daly to make cut.....?
Available @ Olympic www.thegreek.com
7/18/2002 8:00 AM Will John Daly make the cut Must tee off. Cut decided after 36 holes.
333 Yes +140
334 No -170
I'll take +140 on the 95 champ, Muirfield will be tough but John has made strides in his game. Only caveat the driver is nullified to a degree. 1 unit @ +140
Daly to make cut.....?
Available @ Olympic www.thegreek.com
7/18/2002 8:00 AM Will John Daly make the cut Must tee off. Cut decided after 36 holes.
333 Yes +140
334 No -170
I'll take +140 on the 95 champ, Muirfield will be tough but John has made strides in his game. Only caveat the driver is nullified to a degree. 1 unit @ +140
Glad to see ya back Stanley, hope things are better for your sis! U were missed!
Would have loved Monarch's Oly pick a few months ago. Still may bite for place as he has had his best two BO finishes of his career on this course! It is no surprise as he is an "iron god", even tho he is a dickhead in person!
Also thinking about Price for a place shot as I fancy his iron game as well as his sterling form of late. Toms and Els finish props and m/u's look good to me as well! Looks like an ACTION PACKED wk of punting for this 'merican!
GL u golf nuts! Nice place hits last wk DOGS!
:moon: :thefinger
Would have loved Monarch's Oly pick a few months ago. Still may bite for place as he has had his best two BO finishes of his career on this course! It is no surprise as he is an "iron god", even tho he is a dickhead in person!
Also thinking about Price for a place shot as I fancy his iron game as well as his sterling form of late. Toms and Els finish props and m/u's look good to me as well! Looks like an ACTION PACKED wk of punting for this 'merican!
GL u golf nuts! Nice place hits last wk DOGS!
:moon: :thefinger
The 131st Open Championship
Good to see you back, Stan. Wishing you better days ahead.
No. 1: TigerWoods(7/4 To Win for 2*)
Nothing needs to be said, or you could write a book. The historical symmetry is extra juice for The Striped One, like he needed some. His game is not in the same zone as it was in 2000, which he concedes. A tough break in the draw could actually burden him with a true handicap, but that ball could bounce the other way. The esteemed Muirfield links has spawned a lineage of legendary champions. I'm doubling my stake from June when the wager was "my contribution toward seeing somebody bloody his nose for a change, or my insurance if his quest for the Grand Slam lives on." I trust Seve will not be there to yank his chain.
No. 2: Davis Love(55/1 and 40/1 e.w. for 0.30*)
The fool picked a fine time to find his game. He should weather a decent share of the test, and if so he'll probably confirm what is already known about him, but maybe he'll be on his own little mission to Scotland.
No 3: Justin Leonard(45/1 e.w. for 0.30*)
The Ryder Cup protagonist is well cast in the Lee Trevino role.
Perhaps fortuitously, the draw put my choice of challengers at each end. From there, I'm rich with possibilities but lacking in conviction. Rather than single out the wrong ones, I''m playing quite a few for something less than $10 e.w.
Nick Price(50/1 and 45/1 e.w.)
I circled him long ago, he has not disappointed since, and the rest of the tribe has not catapulted over him. Price is a shotmaker that will have to do it a different way than Faldo, who has recalled that his key at Muirfield (at least in 1992) was his memorably measured swing that produced shots with a soft trajectory that scooted softly along the ground after landing.
Justin Rose(66/1 and 50/1 e.w.)
Finally a major championship that will have him. Six weeks ago I was worried he would peak too soon, then I was worried that he wasn't focused on what came next, but now it looks like he's come along in a good way. Seems a fine choice to be dialed in for significant stretches, but with far too little experience to emerge on top. My feel is that a pairing with Woods enhances Justin's upside potential as an outright selection and tweaks the downside in any tournament matchups.
Michael Campbell (66/1 e.w.)
This dog has fleas. Every facet of his game seems to come and go. Surprisingly, I like the evidence that among the European Tour regulars (and the rest of the field), this is his time to make some noise, edging Clarke off my card, followed by Harrington, Furyk, Faldo and Els, in about that order at their current odds.
Tom Watson(400/1 and 200/1 e.w.; and 100/1 e.w. as Top American)
I was born and raised at 131 Prospect Blvd., and that's a good thing. If I wanted an omen regarding this championship, no other number is on par with that. However, any merit and value I hope to find with this pick lies elsewhere. Alas, proportionality probably means 19 years is not the full penance imposed on Tom as a five-time champion for dropping the Claret Jug.
Bartender.
GL
Good to see you back, Stan. Wishing you better days ahead.
No. 1: TigerWoods(7/4 To Win for 2*)
Nothing needs to be said, or you could write a book. The historical symmetry is extra juice for The Striped One, like he needed some. His game is not in the same zone as it was in 2000, which he concedes. A tough break in the draw could actually burden him with a true handicap, but that ball could bounce the other way. The esteemed Muirfield links has spawned a lineage of legendary champions. I'm doubling my stake from June when the wager was "my contribution toward seeing somebody bloody his nose for a change, or my insurance if his quest for the Grand Slam lives on." I trust Seve will not be there to yank his chain.
No. 2: Davis Love(55/1 and 40/1 e.w. for 0.30*)
The fool picked a fine time to find his game. He should weather a decent share of the test, and if so he'll probably confirm what is already known about him, but maybe he'll be on his own little mission to Scotland.
No 3: Justin Leonard(45/1 e.w. for 0.30*)
The Ryder Cup protagonist is well cast in the Lee Trevino role.
Perhaps fortuitously, the draw put my choice of challengers at each end. From there, I'm rich with possibilities but lacking in conviction. Rather than single out the wrong ones, I''m playing quite a few for something less than $10 e.w.
Nick Price(50/1 and 45/1 e.w.)
I circled him long ago, he has not disappointed since, and the rest of the tribe has not catapulted over him. Price is a shotmaker that will have to do it a different way than Faldo, who has recalled that his key at Muirfield (at least in 1992) was his memorably measured swing that produced shots with a soft trajectory that scooted softly along the ground after landing.
Justin Rose(66/1 and 50/1 e.w.)
Finally a major championship that will have him. Six weeks ago I was worried he would peak too soon, then I was worried that he wasn't focused on what came next, but now it looks like he's come along in a good way. Seems a fine choice to be dialed in for significant stretches, but with far too little experience to emerge on top. My feel is that a pairing with Woods enhances Justin's upside potential as an outright selection and tweaks the downside in any tournament matchups.
Michael Campbell (66/1 e.w.)
This dog has fleas. Every facet of his game seems to come and go. Surprisingly, I like the evidence that among the European Tour regulars (and the rest of the field), this is his time to make some noise, edging Clarke off my card, followed by Harrington, Furyk, Faldo and Els, in about that order at their current odds.
Tom Watson(400/1 and 200/1 e.w.; and 100/1 e.w. as Top American)
I was born and raised at 131 Prospect Blvd., and that's a good thing. If I wanted an omen regarding this championship, no other number is on par with that. However, any merit and value I hope to find with this pick lies elsewhere. Alas, proportionality probably means 19 years is not the full penance imposed on Tom as a five-time champion for dropping the Claret Jug.
Bartender.
GL
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Been struggling to find anything out of line in the specialised markets - but have plumped for Casey - top GB & Ire - Ladbrokes quote of 33/1 seems big considering his current form and possible affinity with Scotland.
gone for following in speciality markets, all 0.5 ew
K Sutherland, top US no Woods 100/1 Ladbrokes
McGinley, Top UK 33/1 Tote
Maruyama, top ROW, 28/1 Bet Direct,
summary of outrights all some prices taken a while back ..1ew
Harrington 50/1 Bet365
Clarke 50/1 Hills
Leonard 66/1 Ladbrokes
K Sutherland, top US no Woods 100/1 Ladbrokes
McGinley, Top UK 33/1 Tote
Maruyama, top ROW, 28/1 Bet Direct,
summary of outrights all some prices taken a while back ..1ew
Harrington 50/1 Bet365
Clarke 50/1 Hills
Leonard 66/1 Ladbrokes
72 hole matches
Faxon +120 over Lehman @ Oly
Parny -115 over Faldo @ 5dimes
Price -110 over Duval @ 5dimes
Toms -115 over Duval @5dimes
Bjorn 105 over Cabrera @ 365
1st rd @ Wsex - 1/2 stroke each
Campbell +110 over Mattice
Love +100 over Monty
Prop to miss cut
Lehman +200 @ 365
Missed 3 out of last 4 and not firing too well now!I'll take 2 to 1
Faxon +120 over Lehman @ Oly
Parny -115 over Faldo @ 5dimes
Price -110 over Duval @ 5dimes
Toms -115 over Duval @5dimes
Bjorn 105 over Cabrera @ 365
1st rd @ Wsex - 1/2 stroke each
Campbell +110 over Mattice
Love +100 over Monty
Prop to miss cut
Lehman +200 @ 365
Missed 3 out of last 4 and not firing too well now!I'll take 2 to 1
Adding:
Norman v Daly 9/10 @ Ladbrokes 3 Units.
Greg hasn't played the past 2 Opens but prior to that he has only missed the cut twice in 21 attempts. Obviously winding down his career now and although highly unlikely to contend should still post a respectable t-45 finish. Daly on the other hand has been woeful these past months. Early season promise has gone and with 3 MCs in a row at the Open has a good chance to be going home very early.
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Pleased to see you going against Duval again DTB. What do you think of Singh/Duval also?
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Love III v Duval 9/10 @ Bet&Win 3 Units.
Love has a supurb Open record and in great form. Duval as mentioned.
Fasth v Daly 9/10 @ Bet&Win 3 Units.
Fine consistent golf from Fasth for much of this season. Has built on his 2nd place at the Open last year and should post a respectable finish this week. Daly as mentioned.
Campbell v Mediate 9/10 @ Bet&Win 2 Units.
Campbell has been in fine form the past couple of weeks. Mediate does not travel well and will once again find the temperamental Scottish climate not to his liking. All those hrs stuck on a plane is not good for the old aching back either.
Norman v Daly 9/10 @ Ladbrokes 3 Units.
Greg hasn't played the past 2 Opens but prior to that he has only missed the cut twice in 21 attempts. Obviously winding down his career now and although highly unlikely to contend should still post a respectable t-45 finish. Daly on the other hand has been woeful these past months. Early season promise has gone and with 3 MCs in a row at the Open has a good chance to be going home very early.
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Pleased to see you going against Duval again DTB. What do you think of Singh/Duval also?
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Love III v Duval 9/10 @ Bet&Win 3 Units.
Love has a supurb Open record and in great form. Duval as mentioned.
Fasth v Daly 9/10 @ Bet&Win 3 Units.
Fine consistent golf from Fasth for much of this season. Has built on his 2nd place at the Open last year and should post a respectable finish this week. Daly as mentioned.
Campbell v Mediate 9/10 @ Bet&Win 2 Units.
Campbell has been in fine form the past couple of weeks. Mediate does not travel well and will once again find the temperamental Scottish climate not to his liking. All those hrs stuck on a plane is not good for the old aching back either.
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Big M
Singh has been thorn in my side. when i'm on him he dumps/against him he fires!If you faded me on every play involving him you would have done well
Duval been hard to bet last couple as odds have caught up but get a little value here as past champion. as always he says he hitting it great but #'s say otherwise.
"Of the three, Duval, the defending champion, has little defence. The Open champion maintains that he is closer to playing well than his statistics suggest, which, given how dire they are, is earnestly to be desired. In the United States, Duval lies 143rd in fairways hit and 44th in putting. He lasted only two rounds in both the Masters and the US Open, as well as three other tour events. "
Singh has been thorn in my side. when i'm on him he dumps/against him he fires!If you faded me on every play involving him you would have done well
Duval been hard to bet last couple as odds have caught up but get a little value here as past champion. as always he says he hitting it great but #'s say otherwise.
"Of the three, Duval, the defending champion, has little defence. The Open champion maintains that he is closer to playing well than his statistics suggest, which, given how dire they are, is earnestly to be desired. In the United States, Duval lies 143rd in fairways hit and 44th in putting. He lasted only two rounds in both the Masters and the US Open, as well as three other tour events. "
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Across the pond we go for our 72 hole matchup:
K. Perry -110 over Marayuama @ Millennium
Happy Gaming!
K. Perry -110 over Marayuama @ Millennium
Happy Gaming!
Ormond, Kenny Perry has withdrawn.
Looks like there's no coverage of the Open over here. Does anyone know if it's possible to watch it on the net somewhere?
Looks like there's no coverage of the Open over here. Does anyone know if it's possible to watch it on the net somewhere?
You know I was wondering bout Kenny playing as I have heard him say he would never go to UK or any other foreign country and play many times and has always decined previously.
As a matter of fact he has been up there for ryder cup on 2 occasions and took next 4 to six weeks off in what we accuse him of ,as avoidance to qualify.
As a matter of fact he has been up there for ryder cup on 2 occasions and took next 4 to six weeks off in what we accuse him of ,as avoidance to qualify.
