I have played with an offshore book once a LONG time ago,,,Never again,,,My question to some is why do you wire money knowing there is a chance ,,,maybe a small chance,,you'll never see it again if you win OR lose? I am sure some of the books are legit, but what protects you? Nothing other than Jack being a good man and doing his best, which is freaking awesome by the way. And then some charge fees and a waiting period to get your money IF you win? So let me get this straight,,I can get a FREE payout but only once a month IF I win? BUT,,It takes 30 seconds for them to get my money when I deposit? My reason was the 24 hour availability to wager ease. Now any book in the states worth their salt has a computer site now. I know at least 10 guys here and they ALL have websites. Sure not trying to cut down any of the guys that advertise with the site cause it is enjoyable and hope it lasts forever. Just curious as to why you would ever need an offshore book that is usually not regulated ,,And yes,,I know locals can screw you just as easy as offshore,just like my chances if I have ever shook the guys hand. And lastly,just curious as to why Griff would make a deal with another book and that deal did not include paying all the customers in full,the same way as he expected you to wire the money in full to make a play,,,Again,I have to believe there would have been someone who would assume the debt based on the 100's of players alone that MJ sent them? Based on that scenario alone IVICE should have had a customer base in the thousands. And if the customer base is hundreds or thousands that is posting money up front?? NOT a book alive wouldn't love that deal,I know several guys that would have flown to Costa Rica, and one that lives there, that would have bailed Griff out for even a piece of that action,,,Cause if the lights stay on long enough,the return would have been there. Just my thoughts,,,
Can we discuss 1vice here?
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Good morning JAS4
To answer you, I did give up a very large % of my over all business with this brand (1vice) in order to make sure ALL my clients are protected. Everyone is being paid.
This gentlemen in question went behind my back and spoke to my new partner and struck another deal for himself, other then the one I had planned for him.
I did try to assist him even after he struck this deal behind my back and he has remained nasty to me.
You will not see or hear about us forcing anyone to settle their accounts for less then what they have on balance.
We do have a plan in place to get us back on track within the next 60 days.
As I have stated before the company is not bankrupt, but I did seek out help and guidance to correct mistakes that I had made and to get us back to being profitable and I see nothing wrong with that.
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Yes sir,,And that alone in my eyes makes you a stand up guy my friend,,Most would have ran for the hills,,,That is why in my earlier post I wanted to talk to you,,To see if there were any options for an investor,,,,Hope things work out well for you.I have visited CR once and would love to visit again,,,Talk to you soon,,
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The next time you get down here please give me a heads up. We have other brands in the 1vice family as well as a PPH service that we could discuss.
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Does this whole situation not remind everyone of the fulltilt/ultimate bet/lock poker fiasco? Continue to take deposits and eventually not payout?
Griff- take Jack's advice- which is almost always correct. Stop posting man. You are doing yourself harm. Do you have ego and need to be right, or do you want to have a business that is profitable? You cant have both of those and all I've seen on this thread is a guy with an ego who feels the need to always be right.
It's a ponzi scheme. I don't know details but I almost guarantee one thing: If every customer with a credit cashed out you would be unable to pay. You depend on new money/clients to pay old debts. That's no different than what Bernie Madoff was doing, just on a different scale. None of this is personal, just a business.
It's a ponzi scheme. I don't know details but I almost guarantee one thing: If every customer with a credit cashed out you would be unable to pay. You depend on new money/clients to pay old debts. That's no different than what Bernie Madoff was doing, just on a different scale. None of this is personal, just a business.
I am honored that you chose your first post here to be about me. Plus you made a reference to a bailout I received years back when another Book pulled a stiff job. This doesn't seem odd in the least.:facepalm: You're right, in a perfect world everyone would get paid what their owed. And others have much more to bitch about than I do, so I guess I should consider myself lucky. For example, many of 1V's clients have had their full balance transferred over to the new platform, but they'll have to complete a 10x RO for being accepted into the "new and improved" program. Many of them will bust out, thus receiving a 100% stiff job. So by comparison, I should move on with my 40% settlement--and I am. Looking forward to March Madness and putting this ugly mess in my rearview window. Peace out whoever you are.
Nope not at all. I got my balance up to 27 K with 5 Dimes last year off a $500 deposit with no change in limits, I'm not going to say how much I cashed out but my checks were there in 4 days, well the first 4 checks cause they have a limit on how much you can withdraw, but I will say on the 5th check they tried to pull a fast one on me that's for should.
I was paid out on Thursday by 1vice. I really think the NBA promo just got out of hand. I had followed the posts about 1vice for years in the offshore sportsbooks forum and there were never any problems before. This was the first sportsbook I played with on the recommendation of a friend. Overall I was happy playing there and appreciate the fact that Griffin is making good on his debts.
More lies...please stop already. You told me Zack is the one that makes the settlement arrangements and you just present them. I chose to talk with him directly after being lied to you in the past about the NBA promo you reneged on and my promised check payout you eventually canceled. At least he kept his word about the speedy payout, but he did hit me up with $250 in fees which were not part of the agreement. So 1V didn't even hold up its end on the reduced arrangement. And the biggest lie of all is "you will not see or hear about us forcing anyone to settle their accounts for less than what they have on balance." LIAR! If that were true, I wouldn't be out 7 Large. Oh, and Zack contacted me, leaving me a voicemail to call him. So, I didn't go behind your back. Yet another Griff Fib.
PS Let us in on this on this planned arrangement you had in mind for me. And if you're still in charge, why didn't I get offered it. I call BS on this pretend plan, too.
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