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they are clearly back on track and are processing payouts quicker than before the move to RDG. I received a 4 digit payout within 24 hours of request and the fee was waived. Griffin clearly trying to get his books reputation back up and making amends with players. Most of the guys posting in this thread are outsiders who do not have funds at 1vice and are making comments based on speculation.
 

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they are clearly back on track and are processing payouts quicker than before the move to RDG. I received a 4 digit payout within 24 hours of request and the fee was waived. Griffin clearly trying to get his books reputation back up and making amends with players. Most of the guys posting in this thread are outsiders who do not have funds at 1vice and are making comments based on speculation.

How do you know who books at 1vice and who doesn't? Or is that also speculation? Just wondering. Trying to figure out the who's who of it
 

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Important Notice about your Sportsbook accounts



If you signup with a sportsbook from one of my sponsors and you want my help if there is ever a dispute, send me your account ID and you are protected. If you signup from another website, giving credit to that website for the referral, I can't help. Well, I could help but why should I?

For now on I am only helping madjacksports members if they have a problem and they used madjacks as the referral website.

I have great relationships with my sponsors and I can help, other sites may not have the relationship that I have. I've been in this business since 1998.

Again: I will need to have your account ID when making deposits with my sponsors.

jack@madjacksports.com

Thanks.

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New policy brought about by the 1-Vice implosion obviously. So unless MJ's is given a referral when signing up with a sponsor Book, MJ assumes no responsibility in resolving the issue? Am I reading this right?
 

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Important Notice about your Sportsbook accounts

If you signup with a sportsbook from one of my sponsors and you want my help if there is ever a dispute, send me your account ID and you are protected. If you signup from another website, giving credit to that website for the referral, I can't help. Well, I could help but why should I?

For now on I am only helping madjacksports members if they have a problem and they used madjacks as the referral website.

I have great relationships with my sponsors and I can help, other sites may not have the relationship that I have. I've been in this business since 1998.

Again: I will need to have your account ID when making deposits with my sponsors.

jack@madjacksports.com

Thanks.

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New policy brought about by the 1-Vice implosion obviously. So unless MJ's is given a referral when signing up with a sponsor Book, MJ assumes no responsibility in resolving the issue? Am I reading this right?

..if people use this site daily and then don't use it as a referral which benefits jack and the site, why would he spend time trying to help you down the road? I'm sure the person you chose as a referral would be happy to defend you.

Kinda like:

you scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours.....

rather then a

I'll scratch your back, you double punch me in the nuts
 

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..if people use this site daily and then don't use it as a referral which benefits jack and the site, why would he spend time trying to help you down the road? I'm sure the person you chose as a referral would be happy to defend you.

Kinda like:

you scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours.....

rather then a

I'll scratch your back, you double punch me in the nuts

I was just looking for clarification. I actually signed up with 1-Vice years ago with no referral. Later on, after making larger deposits, I qualified for contests at this site, which I never knew existed previously. In actuality, 1V directed me to this site, so I was wondering where this leaves people like me in respect to expected help.
 

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..if people use this site daily and then don't use it as a referral which benefits jack and the site, why would he spend time trying to help you down the road?

Maybe it's good for everybody's business, now and in the future. This site can handle this any way it wants. And the book can act any way they want.

Maybe somebody signed up at a book sponsored here some time ago somewhere else? Now they are a member here. Maybe they think that site has a good relationship with the book. Maybe future funding would go through links of this site.

It's all about service. You don't get a direct return all the time in any service business. But it doesn't go unnoticed. And often, is rewarded later.

"if you don't take care of a possible customer someone else will"
 

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Maybe it's good for everybody's business, now and in the future. This site can handle this any way it wants. And the book can act any way they want.

Maybe somebody signed up at a book sponsored here some time ago somewhere else? Now they are a member here. Maybe they think that site has a good relationship with the book. Maybe future funding would go through links of this site.

It's all about service. You don't get a direct return all the time in any service business. But it doesn't go unnoticed. And often, is rewarded later.

"if you don't take care of a possible customer someone else will"

^ This
 

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I was just looking for clarification. I actually signed up with 1-Vice years ago with no referral. Later on, after making larger deposits, I qualified for contests at this site, which I never new existed previously. In actuality, 1V directed me to this site, so I was wondering where this leads people like me.

It leaves you out in the cold. :lol:

I'm kidding.

The way the forums were talking I thought this was some huge problem and thought I would be busy as hell on the phone with players and 1vice and emails and, and, and.

It was basically nothing. Being busy for me, that is.

BUT. I DID step up for you when you emailed me and I talked to Griffin BEFORE you emailed me about you. It was all set for you to get paid in FULL, all you had to do was call Griffin right then, right now, that night. I told you that in email and I posted that on the forum in response to one of your posts.

You refused to talk to Griffin.

Believe it or not. You were set.

I haven't had one complaint in over a week about getting paid. This thing is over.

You will be getting paid, Griffin told me so. Have you called him? If so, then he will call you back like he told you he would.

So, you have questions. Can you call him after 7pm eastern if you have questions? I spoke with him about you this morning and he assured me that you are going to get paid. May I suggest you call him and setup the payout schedule. The sooner, the better, for your own peace of mind.

I think I'd rather have it in writing at this time (email). But I do appreciate your help on my behalf.:0008

You had to do it your way so have it your way.

WTF MAN?!
 

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Maybe it's good for everybody's business, now and in the future. This site can handle this any way it wants. And the book can act any way they want.

Maybe somebody signed up at a book sponsored here some time ago somewhere else? Now they are a member here. Maybe they think that site has a good relationship with the book. Maybe future funding would go through links of this site.

It's all about service. You don't get a direct return all the time in any service business. But it doesn't go unnoticed. And often, is rewarded later.

"if you don't take care of a possible customer someone else will"

I went to bat for the guy and another one too that emailed me.

This thread is getting close to being closed.
 

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I went to bat for the guy and another one too that emailed me.

This thread is getting close to being closed.

That's the way we did it when I was back east.
A couple whacks from a bat or a blackjack & they had all kinds of money. :142smilie
 

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It leaves you out in the cold. :lol:

I'm kidding.

The way the forums were talking I thought this was some huge problem and thought I would be busy as hell on the phone with players and 1vice and emails and, and, and.

It was basically nothing. Being busy for me, that is.

BUT. I DID step up for you when you emailed me and I talked to Griffin BEFORE you emailed me about you. It was all set for you to get paid in FULL, all you had to do was call Griffin right then, right now, that night. I told you that in email and I posted that on the forum in response to one of your posts.

You refused to talk to Griffin.

Believe it or not. You were set.

I haven't had one complaint in over a week about getting paid. This thing is over.







You had to do it your way so have it your way.

WTF MAN?!

Griff has you drinking the 1V kool-aid too. You are seriously misled my friend. I have no record of Griff contacting me. If he called he certainly didn't leave me a voicemail. The new partner, Zack definitely did contact me and I dealt with him. There was no going behind Griff's back-- that's pure BS that he wants to believe to justify $7000 theft on my account. Apparently you want to believe it too. I was left to deal with the partner that was offering 40 cents on the dollar, and not accepting ant counter offers. These are FACTS!

$5000 of that $7000 theft was my college tourney win here on your forum. The other $2000 was for a 2nd place finish in an NFL contest at another forum. Basically your sponsor ran a contest at your forum and stiffed the grand prize winner. Are you ok with the 5k theft committed right here at your forum?

WTF MAN?
 

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Griff has you drinking the 1V kool-aid too. You are seriously misled my friend. I have no record of Griff contacting me. If he called he certainly didn't leave me a voicemail. The new partner, Zack definitely did contact me and I dealt with him. There was no going behind Griff's back-- that's pure BS that he wants to believe to justify $7000 theft on my account. Apparently you want to believe it too. I was left to deal with the partner that was offering 40 cents on the dollar, and not accepting ant counter offers. These are FACTS!

$5000 of that $7000 theft was my college tourney win here on your forum. The other $2000 was for a 2nd place finish in an NFL contest at another forum. Basically your sponsor ran a contest at your forum and stiffed the grand prize winner. Are you ok with the 5k theft committed right here at your forum?

WTF MAN?
You will be getting paid, Griffin told me so. Have you called him? If so, then he will call you back like he told you he would.

At this point I didn't know if you had called him or not.

So, you have questions. Can you call him after 7pm eastern if you have questions? I spoke with him about you this morning and he assured me that you are going to get paid. May I suggest you call him and setup the payout schedule. The sooner, the better, for your own peace of mind.

I think I'd rather have it in writing at this time (email). But I do appreciate your help on my behalf.:0008

Here is when you said you weren't going to call him and you didn't.

YOU accepted a deal from somebody rather than talking to Griffing like I said you should.

It was set.

AND YOU WERE HAPPY WITH THE DEAL YOU MADE! You told me so in an email.

You panicked and blew it.

I'm done with this discussion.
 

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At this point I didn't know if you had called him or not.





Here is when you said you weren't going to call him and you didn't.

YOU accepted a deal from somebody rather than talking to Griffing like I said you should.

It was set.

AND YOU WERE HAPPY WITH THE DEAL YOU MADE! You told me so in an email.

You panicked and blew it.

I'm done with this discussion.

Yes, I was relieved to get anything after I got an email from Griff saying that my "account would not be assumed" which is code for I am stealing all your money. Here's the real question: "WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO DEAL FOR ANYTHING LESS THAN MY FULL BALANCE". Pay people what they are owed...what a concept.:facepalm:

Going forward, make sure you collect your advertising fees from 1V upfront, or you too may be FORCED to deal for something less than you're owed. And God forbid you ever let 1V run a contest here again. If so, make sure you collect the prize money up front from these stiffs. The best solution would be to drop 1V as a sponsor, but we both know that won't happen.
 

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I went to bat for the guy and another one too that emailed me.

This thread is getting close to being closed.

Of course, you want to close the thread. It looks bad for 1V and MJ, so make it go away and hope everyone forgets.
 

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Here's the real question: "WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO DEAL FOR ANYTHING LESS THAN MY FULL BALANCE".

I don't know, why did you do that?

All you had to do was call Griffin like I asked you to.

I bet you STILL haven't called him. It is absolutely out of my hands, so posting about it here isn't getting you anything. I don't write the checks over there. CALL GRIFFIN UP! JFC!

This thread is dead. We aren't getting anywhere.
 

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I don't know, why did you do that?

All you had to do was call Griffin like I asked you to.

I bet you STILL haven't called him. It is absolutely out of my hands, so posting about it here isn't getting you anything. I don't write the checks over there. CALL GRIFFIN UP! JFC!

This thread is dead. We aren't getting anywhere.

Exactly, why would anyone accept 5k on a 12 balance........unless the alternative is nothing, duh.
 

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Exactly, why would anyone accept 5k on a 12 balance........unless the alternative is nothing, duh.

looks like you have a problem with reading comprehension that Jack has told you at least 5 times ... what part of CALL GRIFFIN do you not understand :shrug:

Jack TRIED to help you and you fully paid but you go around that help and make your own shitty deal ... I agree it does suck but YOU made the deal and should have no beef with Jack as he helped you!!!
 
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