Obama on fox sunday
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Dogs, I see you had time to post in the planned parenthood thread. How about answering some of these questions that got lined up for you over here?
Originally Posted by Chadman
You don't understand why he'd go on Fox now. And yet, the entire time he didn't go on Fox, it was something to find fault with him about.
Absolutely--when you had Dem candidates dodge the biggest audience in cable news for entire campaign--including collectively canceling debate on Fox--then in waning moments they decide to come on--it makes me wonder why?
Hilliary made brief appearance--nothing to lose at that stage--but can't figure why obama now does--
I'm lost on your question --I see no comparison of my initial complaint on of hiding and being perplexed why he comes on now. The go hand in hand to my thinking :shrug:
On Toledo's inference of Bush getting canned questions--evidently he doesn't watch the press questions after taks.
Originally Posted by bleedingpurple
Quick question:
In 7 years of presidency, what the hell has George Bush been responsible for to give America hope?
Depends on what you call hope. For some of us being able to continue to earn living in safe crime free environment and keep good portion of what we earn instead of giving to gov to provide for those who hope lies in --
--what the gov can take away from productive and
give to them
--hitting the lottery or winning lawsuit
The day that hope is gone here for those "with ambition" is the day we are not bombarded with immigrants trying to get in.
--only a few rare instances I can think of where productive person would have legit beef--
Jack would be classic example of one that would as his lively hood was directly adversely affected by politics in this administration. Couldn't blame him for being pissed one bit.
--now can you give us reason why you have seen no hope last 7 years :0corn
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Originally Posted by djv
Missed votes were pointed out here a few weeks back. These numbers are very close that were posted and in news papers. Mc Cain 53% Hillary 48% Obama 39%
1st I was speaking of his failure to take a stance either way with his hundreds of "present votes" in Illinois senate.
--but to answer your question--you'll have to forgive me for not taking #'s you throw up as facts--maybe you could point us to source--on quick search of google 'Obama missed votes in senate" 1st entry is---
http://www.google.com/search?source...C_enUS208US208&q=obama+missed+votes+in+senate
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama has missed the most votes of any Democratic presidential hopeful in the Senate over the last two months, including a vote on an Iran resolution he has blasted Sen. Hillary Clinton for supporting.
Sen. Barack Obama makes a campaign stop at Iowa State University on Saturday.
The Illinois Democrat has missed nearly 80 percent of all votes since September----
---so pardon me if I'm a tad skepticle on your projected # of him missing only 39%
You don't understand why he'd go on Fox now. And yet, the entire time he didn't go on Fox, it was something to find fault with him about.
Absolutely--when you had Dem candidates dodge the biggest audience in cable news for entire campaign--including collectively canceling debate on Fox--then in waning moments they decide to come on--it makes me wonder why?
Hilliary made brief appearance--nothing to lose at that stage--but can't figure why obama now does--
I'm lost on your question --I see no comparison of my initial complaint on of hiding and being perplexed why he comes on now. The go hand in hand to my thinking :shrug:
On Toledo's inference of Bush getting canned questions--evidently he doesn't watch the press questions after taks.
Originally Posted by bleedingpurple
Quick question:
In 7 years of presidency, what the hell has George Bush been responsible for to give America hope?
Depends on what you call hope. For some of us being able to continue to earn living in safe crime free environment and keep good portion of what we earn instead of giving to gov to provide for those who hope lies in --
--what the gov can take away from productive and
give to them
--hitting the lottery or winning lawsuit
The day that hope is gone here for those "with ambition" is the day we are not bombarded with immigrants trying to get in.
--only a few rare instances I can think of where productive person would have legit beef--
Jack would be classic example of one that would as his lively hood was directly adversely affected by politics in this administration. Couldn't blame him for being pissed one bit.
--now can you give us reason why you have seen no hope last 7 years :0corn
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Originally Posted by djv
Missed votes were pointed out here a few weeks back. These numbers are very close that were posted and in news papers. Mc Cain 53% Hillary 48% Obama 39%
1st I was speaking of his failure to take a stance either way with his hundreds of "present votes" in Illinois senate.
--but to answer your question--you'll have to forgive me for not taking #'s you throw up as facts--maybe you could point us to source--on quick search of google 'Obama missed votes in senate" 1st entry is---
http://www.google.com/search?source...C_enUS208US208&q=obama+missed+votes+in+senate
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama has missed the most votes of any Democratic presidential hopeful in the Senate over the last two months, including a vote on an Iran resolution he has blasted Sen. Hillary Clinton for supporting.
Sen. Barack Obama makes a campaign stop at Iowa State University on Saturday.
The Illinois Democrat has missed nearly 80 percent of all votes since September----
---so pardon me if I'm a tad skepticle on your projected # of him missing only 39%
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Missed Votes in SenateDOGS THAT BARK said:
McCain - 59%
Obama - 40.2%
Clinton - 29.7%
Source: WashingtonPost.com
They probably use the same type of gag tactics you use here. I would get slammed and then when it was my turn to respond we would go right to a commercial. Then when we get back from commercial i would already be escorted out of the building yet the bashing would still be a big part of the show. Then if i complained i would get the standard "i didn't see those bashes" Just yours.
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Dog why doesn't any of these neocons go on Olberman, Maher or Air America? Boy it would be tough to try their spinning lies with this group.
I commend Sen. Obama for his planned appearance on Fox News Sunday. Being conservative, and a solid McCain voter, he will probably not change my mind about the election in November. However, it does show me that he has courage to appear on a show with a host that will no doubt ask some very tough questions.(Unlike his pastor who will be "Interviewed" by Moyers on PBS friday night) I respect him for that and I'm sure we will see a very informative interview.
) I respect him for that and I'm sure we will see a very informative interview.
You might want to clarify that the post picked a specific time period 110th Congress for their their tabulation Gregg--
Here is list of top % of missed votes for entire senate career--just in case your curious
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/repstats.xpd
Missed Votes
These representatives have the highest percentage of missed votes. (View All Representatives)
Missed Votes Representative
52% (220) Del. Eni Faleomavaega [D-AS] since Feb 8, 2007
30% (128) Res.Com. Luis Fortu?o [R-PR] since Feb 8, 2007
27% (114) Del. Madeleine Bordallo [D-GU] since Feb 8, 2007
22% (960) Rep. Jo Ann Davis [R-VA] since Jan 3, 2001
19% (230) Sen. Barack Obama [D-IL] since Jan 6, 2005
18% (1504) Rep. Barbara Cubin [R-WY] since Jan 4, 1995
18% (427) Rep. Bobby Jindal [R-LA] since Jan 4, 2005
16% (645) Sen. John McCain [R-AZ] since Feb 4, 1993
15% (584) Sen. John Kerry [D-MA] since Feb 4, 1993
14% (1000) Rep. Julia Carson [D-IN] since Jan 21, 1997
13% (1217) Rep. Donald Young [R-AK] since Jan 5, 1993
12% (170) Rep. Yvette Clarke [D-NY] since Jan 4, 2007
11% (671) Rep. Stephanie Jones [D-OH] since Jan 6, 1999
11% (1007) Rep. Luis Guti?rrez [D-IL] since Jan 5, 1993
Mean: 0.03; Standard Deviation: 0.02;
---and believe I put up enough of his Illinois Senate voting records but defining whether his change /hope rhetoric is sincere or he's just another slick talking politician can be summed as follows-
From page 130 in his book Audacity of Hope--
"You must vote yes or no on whatever bill comes up, with the knowledge that it's unlikely to be a compromise that either you or your supporters consider fair and or just."
Yet voted present 130 times in illinois--numerous time being only one to do so. :0corn
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Wayne, do you think that the numbers you put up showing Obama missing 19% and McCain missing 16% shows a great deal of difference? Seriously? And that is something that Obama should be held to task about? Not saying it isn't...I think it's a fair criticism, but if this is fair, then the only candidate above reproach on this issue is Clinton - which I support, and am happy to look at. So, a vote for McCain is essentially the same as a vote for Obama, on this important issue to you - as I see it. Fair point?
Just so we're clear, CNN has the most daily viewers every day, so if you continue to mention Fox as having the largest audience in cable as a network, I can certainly make this a point. That being said...
Just wondering, using your posted point of Hillary having "nothing to gain at that stage," what did Obama have to "gain by an appearance at that stage?" It was only important when you are trying to make a negative point about Obama? Extrapolating...he must also have had nothing to gain at that stage, so it's understandable with nothing to gain that a candidate would not do it. I certainly understand it, and understand why the republican candidates did not want to come on any of the democratic supportive shows - as was asked here earlier.
And now you don't know what he has to gain, and are suspicious of why he is going on Fox? Why do you think he's going on Fox now? Something again, I don't understand. What does he have to gain? That's your point, right? I don't know, really, seems risky at best to be put through the conservative meat grinder by a slanted, presumed attacking questioner, when his race is still in doubt.
I understand you are trying to ridicule the man, but for the life of me, I can't understand the logic in your point? You say you are perplexed...I guess you'll have to explain the deviousness of what his plan for positivity is in appearing on the network now, otherwise, it's just another political rip without merit, IMO. Not understanding it doesn't make it something negative at face value, does it?
You might want to clarify that the post picked a specific time period 110th Congress for their their tabulation Gregg--
Here is list of top % of missed votes for entire senate career--just in case your curious
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/repstats.xpd
Missed Votes
These representatives have the highest percentage of missed votes. (View All Representatives)
Missed Votes Representative
52% (220) Del. Eni Faleomavaega [D-AS] since Feb 8, 2007
30% (128) Res.Com. Luis Fortu?o [R-PR] since Feb 8, 2007
27% (114) Del. Madeleine Bordallo [D-GU] since Feb 8, 2007
22% (960) Rep. Jo Ann Davis [R-VA] since Jan 3, 2001
19% (230) Sen. Barack Obama [D-IL] since Jan 6, 2005
18% (1504) Rep. Barbara Cubin [R-WY] since Jan 4, 1995
18% (427) Rep. Bobby Jindal [R-LA] since Jan 4, 2005
16% (645) Sen. John McCain [R-AZ] since Feb 4, 1993
15% (584) Sen. John Kerry [D-MA] since Feb 4, 1993
14% (1000) Rep. Julia Carson [D-IN] since Jan 21, 1997
13% (1217) Rep. Donald Young [R-AK] since Jan 5, 1993
12% (170) Rep. Yvette Clarke [D-NY] since Jan 4, 2007
11% (671) Rep. Stephanie Jones [D-OH] since Jan 6, 1999
11% (1007) Rep. Luis Guti?rrez [D-IL] since Jan 5, 1993
Mean: 0.03; Standard Deviation: 0.02;
---and believe I put up enough of his Illinois Senate voting records but defining whether his change /hope rhetoric is sincere or he's just another slick talking politician can be summed as follows-
From page 130 in his book Audacity of Hope--
"You must vote yes or no on whatever bill comes up, with the knowledge that it's unlikely to be a compromise that either you or your supporters consider fair and or just."
Yet voted present 130 times in illinois--numerous time being only one to do so. :0corn
http://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/mikva-021608/index.html You & the Clintons should just drop the BS on this issue.
he vetoed the water boarding ban keeping interrogation techniques in the hands of those that know the issue...and out of the hands of clueless liberal hacks that also want to close guantanamo despite the fact that this would bring terrorists(who could give a big rat`s ass about the geneva convention not to mention your well being) to our shores and force us to give these monsters the same rights as u.s. citizens,not to mention access to quislings like the aclu........
which,btw,is the exact reason that guantanamo bay exists "offshore"....
:SIB
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