Yes. When you can't tell the difference between Facebook circulated BS and the New York Times, you're dumb. InfoWars and the Washington Post are not peers.
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Yes. When you can't tell the difference between Facebook circulated BS and the New York Times, you're dumb. InfoWars and the Washington Post are not peers.
Nobody would come up clean and angelic. Nobody. We're human. I've been critical of those that stand steadfast in the face of facts and call bullshit, but then fall over and over again for unsubstantiated crap that gets circulated on blogs and Facebook.
I've already said it is in my best interest to see Trump succeed, but I think he's going to do a lot of damage that the next administration will have to clean up.....kind of like when Obama inherited the shit sandwich from Bush. He turned things around and has the economy growing, but that's just not good enough, lol.
The Middle East is our fault, North Korea is our problem, Russia's actions are on us, blah blah blah. If there is one thing I like about Trump it is how he'll probably focus on the US versus fixing an unfixable globe. By the way, who would you rather hand the Middle East over too, lol. They can fucking have it.
As far as the hope and change goes, I didn't vote for Obama either time. But, you have to admit he took a world of shit and turned it around. He gave people health care that couldn't get it. The economy has rebounded in a big way since 2008, and he should get some of the credit.....especially considering what the Republicans did to interfere with his agenda.
New York Times and the Washington post puts out fake news. Not all of it but a lot of it. Its tainted bias bullshit. And you suck it up like a freaking sponge. You are just proving how misinformed you are. Propaganda. Government controlled media. I do know the difference. You do not. Its obvious.
Not knowing the truth does not make Whatshisnuts ignorant. Not wanting to know the truth does.
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Just to be clear, negative news about Trump = fake news
negative news about anyone in the democratic party = real news??
This is how the next four years will go, anything negative about Trump will be treated as fake news by his base.
I often find myself agreeing with Penn Jillete, and in a recent interview he had this to say about media. It's not expressly about media bias or fake news, but I think it the most reasonable approach to the consumption of news. (The last paragraph especially):
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A seminal moment in modern American politics is the day that The Daily Show's Jon Stewart goes on Crossfire and starts yelling at Tucker Carlson and Paul Begala, "I'm the entertainment. You're supposed to be serious!" Is the hybridization of entertainment and politics ruining everything?
""I have a definition of art which protects me from this question. My definition of art is anything you do after the chores are done, and in that definition of art, Ron Jeremy, Picasso, and the mall Santa all have the exact same job. I believe there is one show business. So I don't really think there is much of a difference between a newscaster and a stand-up comedian in terms of what their job is.
Jon Stewart is playing the trick of you're supposed to do this and I'm supposed to do that, and the this and that are reality and entertainment. But the this and that are really just two different kinds of show business.
The newscasters should be held to the exact same standards as [comedian] Amy Schumer. With Amy Schumer we ask, "Is she interesting? Is she funny? Is she delivering the thing that we want from her at this moment?" I would say the same thing for Meet the Press. I would say you're not supposed to be funny, you're not supposed to be making things up, you're not supposed to be talking about the guy you went out with last night?but you are supposed to be giving us as consumers what we want. What we want out of you is a feeling that you aren't distorting the facts in giving us this information.
So you know, I disagree very strongly with The New York Times, but I read The New York Times almost every day. Because I trust The New York Times to deliver the kind of entertainment they promised me. And the kind of entertainment they promised me is that they won't lie about certain things, and that they will cover certain things, and that they will give me a well-rounded view of certain things that's within my vocabulary and that's in my style, and the length of article that I want, and all of that. So I would argue that The New York Times is doing precisely what Jon Stewart is doing, but they're just delivering for a different audience.""
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Fake news definitely exists, i.e stories that are completely false. But the more subtle problem is people not recognizing that all news is packaged differently by different outlets. The stories they choose to tell, the stories they choose not to tell. The bias or side they take on controversial issues, the advertising they engage in, who owns the company. Without knowing these things it's pretty hard to broadly accept or reject the news delivered to you.
Even the answer from the interview above is influenced by the way the question was asked, the agenda of the reporter asking the questions, how his boss told him to handle it. etc. Every human has bias, but in this case, I enjoyed the article because it talked about things I am interested in, was thought provoking, and entertained me. I don't have specific examples of this reporter lying to me, or Jillette being out of his mind, so I hear them out. Doesn't mean everything said is gospel.
Basically, being "good" at consuming news is actually a skill, and takes effort. It's usually pretty obvious when you talk to people who don't put in that effort. And in those cases I freely and without guilt ignore everything they say, whether I agree or disagree.
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A seminal moment in modern American politics is the day that The Daily Show's Jon Stewart goes on Crossfire and starts yelling at Tucker Carlson and Paul Begala, "I'm the entertainment. You're supposed to be serious!" Is the hybridization of entertainment and politics ruining everything?
""I have a definition of art which protects me from this question. My definition of art is anything you do after the chores are done, and in that definition of art, Ron Jeremy, Picasso, and the mall Santa all have the exact same job. I believe there is one show business. So I don't really think there is much of a difference between a newscaster and a stand-up comedian in terms of what their job is.
Jon Stewart is playing the trick of you're supposed to do this and I'm supposed to do that, and the this and that are reality and entertainment. But the this and that are really just two different kinds of show business.
The newscasters should be held to the exact same standards as [comedian] Amy Schumer. With Amy Schumer we ask, "Is she interesting? Is she funny? Is she delivering the thing that we want from her at this moment?" I would say the same thing for Meet the Press. I would say you're not supposed to be funny, you're not supposed to be making things up, you're not supposed to be talking about the guy you went out with last night?but you are supposed to be giving us as consumers what we want. What we want out of you is a feeling that you aren't distorting the facts in giving us this information.
So you know, I disagree very strongly with The New York Times, but I read The New York Times almost every day. Because I trust The New York Times to deliver the kind of entertainment they promised me. And the kind of entertainment they promised me is that they won't lie about certain things, and that they will cover certain things, and that they will give me a well-rounded view of certain things that's within my vocabulary and that's in my style, and the length of article that I want, and all of that. So I would argue that The New York Times is doing precisely what Jon Stewart is doing, but they're just delivering for a different audience.""
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Fake news definitely exists, i.e stories that are completely false. But the more subtle problem is people not recognizing that all news is packaged differently by different outlets. The stories they choose to tell, the stories they choose not to tell. The bias or side they take on controversial issues, the advertising they engage in, who owns the company. Without knowing these things it's pretty hard to broadly accept or reject the news delivered to you.
Even the answer from the interview above is influenced by the way the question was asked, the agenda of the reporter asking the questions, how his boss told him to handle it. etc. Every human has bias, but in this case, I enjoyed the article because it talked about things I am interested in, was thought provoking, and entertained me. I don't have specific examples of this reporter lying to me, or Jillette being out of his mind, so I hear them out. Doesn't mean everything said is gospel.
Basically, being "good" at consuming news is actually a skill, and takes effort. It's usually pretty obvious when you talk to people who don't put in that effort. And in those cases I freely and without guilt ignore everything they say, whether I agree or disagree.
Are there any on this forum that don't seem to demonstrate this skill effectively?
Basically, being "good" at consuming news is actually a skill, and takes effort. It's usually pretty obvious when you talk to people who don't put in that effort. And in those cases I freely and without guilt ignore everything they say, whether I agree or disagree.
You sound a lot like Rush Limbaugh
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You sound a lot like Rush Limbaugh
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Cont'd storyline...sorry in advance Merry Xmas Jack...
Bob is so happy to have Sally, he is awkward with women, being a 24 year old virgin. Sally moved into his home 2 months ago.
He enjoys kissing Sally, she is so shy, never removing any of her clothing or allowing anything other than kissing.
Bob secretly wishes "Sally" would give up her beer drinking and nasty cigar habits.
"Sally" bought Bob a new razor for Christmas,Bob was greatfull, as his unexpectedly wore out...
Bob bought "Sally" beautiful scarves for Christmas, she always wears them.
Bob voted Trump as he was disappointed with the lack of hope and change in his life. His corporate job was farmed out to the Phillipines, and he works 2 minimum paying jobs and shares a paper route with a 72 year old retiree named Edgar.
"Sally" tells Bob she is a traveling pharmaceutical rep.
Actually "Sally" is a Masseuse for hire at the notorious "Johnny-Boy Mens Athletic Club"
"Sally" voted for HRC because "Us Girls have to hang together..."
Bob is so happy to have Sally, he is awkward with women, being a 24 year old virgin. Sally moved into his home 2 months ago.
He enjoys kissing Sally, she is so shy, never removing any of her clothing or allowing anything other than kissing.
Bob secretly wishes "Sally" would give up her beer drinking and nasty cigar habits.
"Sally" bought Bob a new razor for Christmas,Bob was greatfull, as his unexpectedly wore out...
Bob bought "Sally" beautiful scarves for Christmas, she always wears them.
Bob voted Trump as he was disappointed with the lack of hope and change in his life. His corporate job was farmed out to the Phillipines, and he works 2 minimum paying jobs and shares a paper route with a 72 year old retiree named Edgar.
"Sally" tells Bob she is a traveling pharmaceutical rep.
Actually "Sally" is a Masseuse for hire at the notorious "Johnny-Boy Mens Athletic Club"
"Sally" voted for HRC because "Us Girls have to hang together..."
A couple of years to be nice? As someone who read stuff like National Review and was a true believer in my 20s of 'conservatism' and fundamentalist christianity I understand the mindset of those supporters. The end game is the repeal of everything FDR and LBJ did. Unless you are a true believer in this there is no time to be 'nice' anymore.
I have not defriended any of my right wing facebook friends and in person I can talk with republican people because I can use humor. None that I know have used racial comments or said anything stupid like Obama wasn't born here to me or in postings of their I have read. If they do then it will be game over.
Ummm. Reasonable request, Nuts.
You'll notice not one response from lowell, skulnutz, hedge, goober, or any of the other Trumpfreaks.
Not surprising, sine the only response they ever have is....Duh?
Craig Timberg article in Wapo 11/24 about Russian propaganda influencing US election. They had to retract article because of source used by writer. Propornot site.
July 28,2015 NY Times had to retract inaccurate story about Clinton being criminally investigated .
The same paper that is losing 100's of millions each year and had to give up 8 floors in its building. Both papers are a sham. Neither reported fairly on Trump and his candidacy.
I have no more need for political discussion with snowflakes on this site. My side has won and they will keep winning as long as idiots like Pelosi, Ellison and Warren are the mainstays of DNC.
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You just suck up and regurgitate everything they tell you huh.
You should have used cucked snowflakes to really nail home how you don't have an opinion of your own.
Just run with that fake news line the four years trump is running this country into the ground and it will be like it never happened.
