President Donald J Trump
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It's going to be interesting to see the political trolls pivot from mindless critique of the current White House to supporting the powers that be in the next White House. Like I said elsewhere, Hillary is gone, Obama is about to be gone, and Trump will be the guy. What will the trolls troll about during a Trump presidency? Nothing?
Me, I have it easy because I hated both options and haven't ever liked/trusted a president. I can't imagine the mental gymnastics involved in trolling against one president and eating up the bullshit of the next. But the majority of partisans in American don't seem to struggle with it at all. :shrug:
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Obama Should Pardon ?Dreamer? Immigrants, Democrats Say
by
Laura Litvan
November 17, 2016 1:25 PM Updated on November 17, 2016 4:43 PM
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Undocumented immigrants seen risking deportation under Trump
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More than 750,000 youth were protected under 2012 Obama order
President Barack Obama speaks in Warsaw on July 8, 2016.
Photographer: MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images
A group of House Democrats called on President Barack Obama to pardon about 750,000 young undocumented immigrants who are temporarily shielded from deportation under a 2012 executive order, a move that reflects growing concern about a shift in immigration policy expected after President-elect Donald Trump takes power in January.
?By no fault of their own, these Americans are prisoners in their own country, living their daily lives, not knowing if they will be deported to another country,? Representative Lucille Roybal-Allard, a California Democrat, said at a news conference. She and a group of other lawmakers active on immigration policy sent a letter to Obama with their request Thursday.
But a White House official dismissed the idea late Thursday, saying that the president?s clemency power cannot confer legal status upon an undocumented immigrant and that only Congress can do so.
The immigrants, sometimes referred to as ?Dreamers,? provided information including fingerprints and relatives? home addresses when they applied for protection under the president?s 2012 executive order, known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. They received renewable, two-year work permits and Social Security cards as part of the program. Democrats are concerned that information could be used to facilitate deportations in the next administration.
Trump campaigned on an agenda that included building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and deporting the roughly 11 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. He softened his rhetoric in a ?60 Minutes? interview on Sunday, saying he would focus first on illegal immigrants who have committed crimes, who he said are ?gang members, drug dealers? and number as many as 3 million.
Many lawmakers in both parties have expressed concern about Trump?s proposals and rhetoric on immigration. A number of Republicans in both chambers have said this week they are particularly concerned about how he will address the needs of the younger immigrants covered by Obama?s 2012 action.
?Forced Upon Us?
Republican Senators Jeff Flake of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina are among those who this week said Congress will likely need to take some action to address their status, particularly as those two-year permits begin to expire.
?There will be people timed out of it, so the issue will be forced upon us before long,? Flake said.
Roybal-Allard and three other Democrats sent Obama a letter with their request for pardons, arguing the immigrants who registered for the DACA program ?face uncertainty, fear and stress, leading to psychological issues including depression, anxiety and an increased risk of suicide.?
Conversations About Pardons
Representative Zoe Lofgren, a California Democrat who signed the letter, said she and other lawmakers have had ?private conversations? with the administration about possible pardons, but declined to say what response they?ve had.
Obama?s program allows people aged 31 and under who were seeking or had completed an education and who had been in the country for at least five years to get work permits. He later extended relief to an additional 3.6 million undocumented parents of American-born children, but that is on hold pending a lawsuit. Obama took his action affecting the younger immigrants after Congress stalled for years on legislation called the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act, or DREAM Act, which would have provided a path to legal status.
Frank Sharry, executive director of the pro-immigrant group America?s Voice, said that since the election, his group has been deluged by calls from young people participating in the program.
?Right now, many families have been plunged into crisis,? he said. ?Many undocumented families are trying to figure out what to do. If their address is known by the government, should they move? Should they go back to their home country rather than try to weather four years of a Trump administration? Others are saying we should stand up and fight.?
Obama already has deported more people than any prior president, formally removing almost 2.8 million people since taking office, compared with 2 million under George W. Bush and 870,000 under Bill Clinton.
by
Laura Litvan
November 17, 2016 1:25 PM Updated on November 17, 2016 4:43 PM
➞
Undocumented immigrants seen risking deportation under Trump
➞
More than 750,000 youth were protected under 2012 Obama order
President Barack Obama speaks in Warsaw on July 8, 2016.
Photographer: MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images
A group of House Democrats called on President Barack Obama to pardon about 750,000 young undocumented immigrants who are temporarily shielded from deportation under a 2012 executive order, a move that reflects growing concern about a shift in immigration policy expected after President-elect Donald Trump takes power in January.
?By no fault of their own, these Americans are prisoners in their own country, living their daily lives, not knowing if they will be deported to another country,? Representative Lucille Roybal-Allard, a California Democrat, said at a news conference. She and a group of other lawmakers active on immigration policy sent a letter to Obama with their request Thursday.
But a White House official dismissed the idea late Thursday, saying that the president?s clemency power cannot confer legal status upon an undocumented immigrant and that only Congress can do so.
The immigrants, sometimes referred to as ?Dreamers,? provided information including fingerprints and relatives? home addresses when they applied for protection under the president?s 2012 executive order, known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. They received renewable, two-year work permits and Social Security cards as part of the program. Democrats are concerned that information could be used to facilitate deportations in the next administration.
Trump campaigned on an agenda that included building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and deporting the roughly 11 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. He softened his rhetoric in a ?60 Minutes? interview on Sunday, saying he would focus first on illegal immigrants who have committed crimes, who he said are ?gang members, drug dealers? and number as many as 3 million.
Many lawmakers in both parties have expressed concern about Trump?s proposals and rhetoric on immigration. A number of Republicans in both chambers have said this week they are particularly concerned about how he will address the needs of the younger immigrants covered by Obama?s 2012 action.
?Forced Upon Us?
Republican Senators Jeff Flake of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina are among those who this week said Congress will likely need to take some action to address their status, particularly as those two-year permits begin to expire.
?There will be people timed out of it, so the issue will be forced upon us before long,? Flake said.
Roybal-Allard and three other Democrats sent Obama a letter with their request for pardons, arguing the immigrants who registered for the DACA program ?face uncertainty, fear and stress, leading to psychological issues including depression, anxiety and an increased risk of suicide.?
Conversations About Pardons
Representative Zoe Lofgren, a California Democrat who signed the letter, said she and other lawmakers have had ?private conversations? with the administration about possible pardons, but declined to say what response they?ve had.
Obama?s program allows people aged 31 and under who were seeking or had completed an education and who had been in the country for at least five years to get work permits. He later extended relief to an additional 3.6 million undocumented parents of American-born children, but that is on hold pending a lawsuit. Obama took his action affecting the younger immigrants after Congress stalled for years on legislation called the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act, or DREAM Act, which would have provided a path to legal status.
Frank Sharry, executive director of the pro-immigrant group America?s Voice, said that since the election, his group has been deluged by calls from young people participating in the program.
?Right now, many families have been plunged into crisis,? he said. ?Many undocumented families are trying to figure out what to do. If their address is known by the government, should they move? Should they go back to their home country rather than try to weather four years of a Trump administration? Others are saying we should stand up and fight.?
Obama already has deported more people than any prior president, formally removing almost 2.8 million people since taking office, compared with 2 million under George W. Bush and 870,000 under Bill Clinton.
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Obama already has deported more people than any prior president, formally removing almost 2.8 million people since taking office, compared with 2 million under George W. Bush and 870,000 under Bill Clinton.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html
Isn't this information used as a counterpoint, to support Obama's immigration policies?
Obama has deported more than any other president.
skulnutz is so fucking dumb he can't even comprehend what he posts.:facepalm:
Dude. He never says illegals can vote! He says people that vote are citizens. The closest he comes is saying "if you have an undocumented family member at home". How hard is it to comprehend what he is saying? You have to work really hard to make the leaps you and the Faux News jerkoffs make. You guys are always crying about PC, then you do what PC people do.....you find a way to get offended by nothing. Holy shit.
Isn't that what you guys have been crying for? A president that is tough on illegal immigration. You had one, but you missed it because you were busy watching non-sense videos and Faux News. BTW, I already posted this in response to Lowell's nonsense but he responded with "Yeah, but he just let's the right back in" or something just as dumb. You guys are amazing.
Hey DumbASS, I copied and pasted the last few lines in the PREVIOUS POST and gave a LINK to REBUT that LINE of CRAP.
Watch and learn. Obama does not give a shit about illegal immigration. This will change under Trump. Just stupid saying Hussien is tough on illegals.
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I wonder if anyone can dial into the conference call between Obama and the illegal immigrants where he's telling them it is okay. How do you reconcile this border agent's interview with the statistics that show Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other US President?
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a little bit of help, this thread can finally, mercifully be put to death......
tuff to survive when a thread reaches the lowest bowels of Madjacks...:lol:
Face it, Trump is Prez.....the Clinton Foundation can buy an island chain and disappear....or build a lasting favorable legacy spending the money on worthwhile charitable projects world-wide......:0071
with
a little bit of help, this thread can finally, mercifully be put to death......
tuff to survive when a thread reaches the lowest bowels of Madjacks...:lol:
Face it, Trump is Prez.....the Clinton Foundation can buy an island chain and disappear....or build a lasting favorable legacy spending the money on worthwhile charitable projects world-wide......:0071
Speaking of charity, how do you feel about this?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/20/u...mily-charity-opening-day-foundation.html?_r=0
or this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f8e0dd91dc7_story.html?utm_term=.f3fac443b6de
Jaxx is too dumb to understand the concept of fake news and polling. Frreeeeeedummmmmmb! :142smilie
I wonder
I wonder
how many here throwing stones, could withstand a concentrated microscopic inspection of every aspect of their lives and come up totally clean and angelic?
Imagine being a gazillionaire with business dealings and legions of parasites...
Oh wait, we are on a gambling site and gamble, probably illegally.....strike one...
I'm going to give Trump and family the decency of a couple years. They have a steep learning curve ahead.
Lets see what actually gets implemented in America before jumping on the hate wagon.
The middle east for the most part, has been handed to Russia on a platter due to years of ineffectual international policies. Strangely, I see that as a good thing.....they can play with the angry hornets nest...maybe we can concentrate at home.
Looking at the obama "hope & change legacy", their ain't much to say other than he has probably lowered his handicap by a couple strokes.
I wonder
how many here throwing stones, could withstand a concentrated microscopic inspection of every aspect of their lives and come up totally clean and angelic?
Imagine being a gazillionaire with business dealings and legions of parasites...
Oh wait, we are on a gambling site and gamble, probably illegally.....strike one...
I'm going to give Trump and family the decency of a couple years. They have a steep learning curve ahead.
Lets see what actually gets implemented in America before jumping on the hate wagon.
The middle east for the most part, has been handed to Russia on a platter due to years of ineffectual international policies. Strangely, I see that as a good thing.....they can play with the angry hornets nest...maybe we can concentrate at home.
Looking at the obama "hope & change legacy", their ain't much to say other than he has probably lowered his handicap by a couple strokes.
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I am dumb? Do you not realize by now the media was tainted toward Hillary as were the polls. That includes the fake news from the Washington post and New York Times. Man you are dense or just gullible. I know your are not stupid. You are a 3 percenter!
:142smilie
