Sooooo tell me again how good Kaepernick is?

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Dude threw for over 400 last week. He will be fine. Seattle at home is TOUGH. He did look timid though. They should have been running with Kaepernick to loosen Seattle up.

Agreed!!! with.. if he runs a little bit to loose hawks defense then this time they won't lose to the Hawks.... If they do so, I don't care what's the line is... I will put my Dime on 49ers no matter what...
 

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Sooooooo, the quarterback with the worst numbers in the NFL since week 2 is?????????????????






That's right, you guessed it..........COLIN KAEPERNICK.


Sucks, just like I said he would
 

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Sooooooo, the quarterback with the worst numbers in the NFL since week 2 is?????????????????






That's right, you guessed it..........COLIN KAEPERNICK.


Sucks, just like I said he would

it's his weak arm....or it could be that niners mgmt. is so enamored with cross-bay sensation, Terrell pryor.
 

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Sooooooo, the quarterback with the worst numbers in the NFL since week 2 is?????????????????

That's right, you guessed it..........COLIN KAEPERNICK.

Sucks, just like I said he would

What numbers?


If we are talking wins he isn't 2nd worst

If we are talking rushing yards he isn't 2nd worst

If we are talking rushing tds he isn't 2nd worst



The kids winning games in the NFL and still and has his team poised for another playoff run in the most competitive football league in the world.....I say another playoff run because he took his team to the superbowl in his first year....and is going to make playoffs again....

Is he your pocket passing qb? No he is not......so of course his passing stats won't be great....but they are still good....so if you are using just passing stats to determine a QBs success, then I guess KAP will never be great in your eyes.....

Regardless, kid has a winning record and is the catalyst on offense....remember besides vernon this kid has no playmakers to throw too....


You could be right....maybe the kid sucks and get lucky to continue winning games.....but id still take em over cutler....
 

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it's his weak arm....or it could be that niners mgmt. is so enamored with cross-bay sensation, Terrell pryor.

Are you just spring loaded to the "fucking dick" position or can you just have a normal adult conversation some time? Pryor is hurt and your boy sucks, just like I said he did.
 

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What numbers?


If we are talking wins he isn't 2nd worst

If we are talking rushing yards he isn't 2nd worst

If we are talking rushing tds he isn't 2nd worst



The kids winning games in the NFL and still and has his team poised for another playoff run in the most competitive football league in the world.....I say another playoff run because he took his team to the superbowl in his first year....and is going to make playoffs again....

Is he your pocket passing qb? No he is not......so of course his passing stats won't be great....but they are still good....so if you are using just passing stats to determine a QBs success, then I guess KAP will never be great in your eyes.....

Regardless, kid has a winning record and is the catalyst on offense....remember besides vernon this kid has no playmakers to throw too....


You could be right....maybe the kid sucks and get lucky to continue winning games.....but id still take em over cutler....

Holy shit dude. Just an informational note, but most teams have running backs to get their rushing yards and touchdowns. Tim Tebow had lots of rushing touchdowns as well, and he couldn't throw worth a fuck either.

You are absolutely right, Kaepernick will never be great in my eyes. He will never be great to anybody with eyes and understands what you need from your quarterback. He didn't take his team to the Super Bowl last year, he took over a winning team and contributed to a good playoff run, so did Doug Williams except he actually won the Super Bowl. He is not a catalyst on offense when he doesn't contribute enough of it in the passing game. That isn't a catalyst, that's a running back.

The thread has nothing to do with Cutler but I suppose we can make it about that. Cutler came back from a torn groin in two weeks, he has won more games, thrown for more yards, touchdowns and completions. He has fewer turnovers and interceptions so I am glad you said you would take Kaepernick over him, it illustrates your stubbornness to face facts. Again, I am not talking about Cutler, you are. I am talking about the bum in San Francisco.
Kaepernick is average at best. His numbers prove that fact.

Hope this helps,
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Holy shit dude. Just an informational note, but most teams have running backs to get their rushing yards and touchdowns. Tim Tebow had lots of rushing touchdowns as well, and he couldn't throw worth a fuck either.

You are absolutely right, Kaepernick will never be great in my eyes. He will never be great to anybody with eyes and understands what you need from your quarterback. He didn't take his team to the Super Bowl last year, he took over a winning team and contributed to a good playoff run, so did Doug Williams except he actually won the Super Bowl. He is not a catalyst on offense when he doesn't contribute enough of it in the passing game. That isn't a catalyst, that's a running back.

The thread has nothing to do with Cutler but I suppose we can make it about that. Cutler came back from a torn groin in two weeks, he has won more games, thrown for more yards, touchdowns and completions. He has fewer turnovers and interceptions so I am glad you said you would take Kaepernick over him, it illustrates your stubbornness to face facts. Again, I am not talking about Cutler, you are. I am talking about the bum in San Francisco.
Kaepernick is average at best. His numbers prove that fact.

Hope this helps,
FDC


I'm talking about cutler because that is what 90% of this thread has been about...cutler has had many oppurtunites and continues to prove his is a average QB who cannot avoid the mistakes and cannot stay healthy....



If we are discussing Kap, only time will tell.

They are all opinions man ....that's what makes it a great sport...


Stats are great, but I know kap will never be statistically comparable to the mannings/brady's of the past....but I think he is absolutely more then capable of making the essential throws....and being able to run makes him extremley dangerous IMO.

He has a bigger arm then most of these guys, and is still only in his 2nd year as a starter.....and is 6-4 with 2 of those losses coming to seattle on the road and saints on the road (a game they really should've won).


You want to discount the fact that he played great in the playoffs....and against greenbay amazing....and say it was the team that got him there and any QB could've done it....I disagree.....alex smith was in the exact situation the year before and couldn't get past the giants...I know you feel strongly about it which is cool....but I can say that I believe in my mind, that 100% if you put alex smith in at QB, they don't come back and beat ATL on the road down huge, or absolutely wreck greenbay the week before...


He had a great 1st year and was the eventual NFC champ and runner up in the league, and in his 2nd year he is 6-4 and continues to prove he isn't scared of the big stages.....how anyone says that he is a bum is beyond me.....I understand someone not thinking he is going to be great.....but a bum? After what he has done this early....I disagree...





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Are you just spring loaded to the "fucking dick" position or can you just have a normal adult conversation some time? Pryor is hurt and your boy sucks, just like I said he did.

kaepernik isn't my boy......you said he had a weak arm and pryor was better......

I still stand by:

1) kaepernik has a cannon....top 5 nfl arm
2) pryor cant throw...and now cant beat out matt mcgloin

so to recap: both your statements were

1) idiotic
2) absolutely wrong

adult enough for you?
 

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kaepernik isn't my boy......you said he had a weak arm and pryor was better......

I still stand by:

1) kaepernik has a cannon....top 5 nfl arm
2) pryor cant throw...and now cant beat out matt mcgloin

so to recap: both your statements were

1) idiotic
2) absolutely wrong

adult enough for you?

Accuracy aside, if we are just talkin pure arm strength, kap is probably top 3. Absolute fucking cannon.

Strange to think because of how goofy he looks, but flacco can fire a pigskin with the best of em as well.
 

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Philadelphia, PA (SportsNetwork.com) - Jim Harbaugh is hardly the first coach to fall on his sword for an underperforming quarterback but his reaction to queries about Colin Kaepernick's recent struggles was perplexing.

"I think he's doing a heck of a job," Harbaugh told reporters earlier this week when asked about his signal caller's issues. "I guess I'd be puzzled to why people would think that (he is struggling). What's most important is what we see. I'm puzzled to why you or anybody else thinks that."

Puzzled?

Let's see. Kaepernick has thrown for a total of 218 yards over his past two contests -- losses to NFC South heavyweights Carolina and New Orleans -- and San Francisco has fallen 3 1/2 games behind the powerful Seattle Seahawks in the NFC West.

He has thrown only 11 touchdowns in 10 games, his passer rating is a pedestrian 81.8, and Kaepernick is ranked 31st in the NFL with a completion percentage at 56.2.

Meanwhile, remember the knock on Alex Smith when he was leading things in San Francisco? It was all about Smith's inability to make the big play and stretch the field. Well, despite his prodigious arm strength, Kaepernick has produced just 24 pass plays of 20-or-more yards in 2013, good for 30th in the NFL.

Puzzled now coach?

There are really only two explanations for Harbaugh's off-base critique of Kaepernick.

He's either trying to protect his struggling frontman and being purposefully disingenuous -- the most logical and acceptable answer -- or he is attempting to deflect people from revisiting the benching of a guy who is currently 28-6-1 over his last 35 NFL starts (Smith).

Harbaugh looked like a genius at this time last year, devising what may have been the best game plan of his career on "Monday Night Football" in Chicago, turning Kaepernick into Superman against the NFL's most opportunistic defense during an emphatic 32-7 Niners win over the Bears.

Expecting a run-first quarterback, the Bears were stunned to see a confident Kaepernick stand steady in the pocket and throw for two touchdowns in his first career start.

Playing in place of the injured Smith, who was suffering from the effects of a concussion he sustained in a tie against St. Louis the week prior, Kaepernick finished 16-for-23 for 243 yards and led the 49ers to scores on their first four possessions.

Kaepernick's first game at the helm of the 49ers produced more yards and touchdowns than Joe Montana's and Steve Young's debuts combined.

So, despite winning 20 of his last 26 as the quarterback in San Francisco Smith, who is now 9-1 as the leader of the Kansas City Chiefs, would never start another game for the Niners.

Kaepernick is now only 12-7 as the Niners starter since that explosive debut in the Second City and that includes his impressive playoff run which ended five yards short of a Super Bowl championship. As a regular-season starter, he is 10-6, a good but certainly not great "full season."

Harbaugh has contributed to Kaepernick's woes this year by pulling back the reins a bit, the result of seeing Baltimore's Terrell Suggs ignore the inside run during the Super Bowl to take aim his QB time and time again.

What's supposed to set signal callers like Kaepernick apart, however, is the dual-threat ability and while he is currently fourth among QBs with 335 yards rushing, Harbaugh seems spooked to let Kaepernick loose because backups Colt McCoy and McLeod Bethel-Thompson can't run the same type of offense.

On the other hand, the 49ers impressive supporting cast has masked some of the hiccups in Kaepernick's game and more help is on the way in the form of receiver Michael Crabtree, who returned to practice this week for the first time after suffering a torn Achilles back in May.

Crabtree, though, probably won't be activated for Monday's game with the Redskins meaning Kaepernick will have to finds other ways to get the ball down field for at least another week.

"We'll see," Harbaugh said of activating Crabtree. "I think he's close."

To be fair to Harbaugh, Smith is what he is. The Utah product has never lived up to his billing as the No. 1 overall pick in the 2005 NFL Draft and has settled in as a game manager, a tag most quarterbacks feel is comparable to kicking their dog.

That said, a coach has to understand his own situation and this 49ers team is good enough everywhere else to win a Super Bowl with a Brad Johnson-like game manager.

Remember being 6-2-1 with Smith in 2012 and losing in the NFC Championship the year prior wasn't good enough for this organization. So why is 10-6 over the last 16 regular-season games with Kaepernick acceptable?

His purported big-play ability has been overblown, his accuracy spotty and Kaepernick has lacked consistency from week-to-week, the very word Harbaugh mistakenly used to describe him,

"He's been consistently good," the coach overstated. "He's been like that every week he's been backup or a starter."

Now that's puzzling.

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Harbaugh's puzzling take on Kaepernick <!-- END HEAD<strong>LINE</strong -->
By John McMullen, NFL Editor -

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Philadelphia, PA (SportsNetwork.com) - Jim Harbaugh is hardly the first coach to fall on his sword for an underperforming quarterback but his reaction to queries about Colin Kaepernick's recent struggles was perplexing.

"I think he's doing a heck of a job," Harbaugh told reporters earlier this week when asked about his signal caller's issues. "I guess I'd be puzzled to why people would think that (he is struggling). What's most important is what we see. I'm puzzled to why you or anybody else thinks that."

Puzzled?

Let's see. Kaepernick has thrown for a total of 218 yards over his past two contests -- losses to NFC South heavyweights Carolina and New Orleans -- and San Francisco has fallen 3 1/2 games behind the powerful Seattle Seahawks in the NFC West.

He has thrown only 11 touchdowns in 10 games, his passer rating is a pedestrian 81.8, and Kaepernick is ranked 31st in the NFL with a completion percentage at 56.2.

Meanwhile, remember the knock on Alex Smith when he was leading things in San Francisco? It was all about Smith's inability to make the big play and stretch the field. Well, despite his prodigious arm strength, Kaepernick has produced just 24 pass plays of 20-or-more yards in 2013, good for 30th in the NFL.

Puzzled now coach?

There are really only two explanations for Harbaugh's off-base critique of Kaepernick.

He's either trying to protect his struggling frontman and being purposefully disingenuous -- the most logical and acceptable answer -- or he is attempting to deflect people from revisiting the benching of a guy who is currently 28-6-1 over his last 35 NFL starts (Smith).

Harbaugh looked like a genius at this time last year, devising what may have been the best game plan of his career on "Monday Night Football" in Chicago, turning Kaepernick into Superman against the NFL's most opportunistic defense during an emphatic 32-7 Niners win over the Bears.

Expecting a run-first quarterback, the Bears were stunned to see a confident Kaepernick stand steady in the pocket and throw for two touchdowns in his first career start.

Playing in place of the injured Smith, who was suffering from the effects of a concussion he sustained in a tie against St. Louis the week prior, Kaepernick finished 16-for-23 for 243 yards and led the 49ers to scores on their first four possessions.

Kaepernick's first game at the helm of the 49ers produced more yards and touchdowns than Joe Montana's and Steve Young's debuts combined.

So, despite winning 20 of his last 26 as the quarterback in San Francisco Smith, who is now 9-1 as the leader of the Kansas City Chiefs, would never start another game for the Niners.

Kaepernick is now only 12-7 as the Niners starter since that explosive debut in the Second City and that includes his impressive playoff run which ended five yards short of a Super Bowl championship. As a regular-season starter, he is 10-6, a good but certainly not great "full season."

Harbaugh has contributed to Kaepernick's woes this year by pulling back the reins a bit, the result of seeing Baltimore's Terrell Suggs ignore the inside run during the Super Bowl to take aim his QB time and time again.

What's supposed to set signal callers like Kaepernick apart, however, is the dual-threat ability and while he is currently fourth among QBs with 335 yards rushing, Harbaugh seems spooked to let Kaepernick loose because backups Colt McCoy and McLeod Bethel-Thompson can't run the same type of offense.

On the other hand, the 49ers impressive supporting cast has masked some of the hiccups in Kaepernick's game and more help is on the way in the form of receiver Michael Crabtree, who returned to practice this week for the first time after suffering a torn Achilles back in May.

Crabtree, though, probably won't be activated for Monday's game with the Redskins meaning Kaepernick will have to finds other ways to get the ball down field for at least another week.

"We'll see," Harbaugh said of activating Crabtree. "I think he's close."

To be fair to Harbaugh, Smith is what he is. The Utah product has never lived up to his billing as the No. 1 overall pick in the 2005 NFL Draft and has settled in as a game manager, a tag most quarterbacks feel is comparable to kicking their dog.

That said, a coach has to understand his own situation and this 49ers team is good enough everywhere else to win a Super Bowl with a Brad Johnson-like game manager.

Remember being 6-2-1 with Smith in 2012 and losing in the NFC Championship the year prior wasn't good enough for this organization. So why is 10-6 over the last 16 regular-season games with Kaepernick acceptable?

His purported big-play ability has been overblown, his accuracy spotty and Kaepernick has lacked consistency from week-to-week, the very word Harbaugh mistakenly used to describe him,

"He's been consistently good," the coach overstated. "He's been like that every week he's been backup or a starter."

Now that's puzzling.

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Meanwhile, remember the knock on Alex Smith when he was leading things in San Francisco? It was all about Smith's inability to make the big play and stretch the field. Well, despite his prodigious arm strength, [/B]Kaepernick has produced just 24 pass plays of 20-or-more yards in 2013, good for 30th in the NFL.

WHAT.....arm strength......who knew?
 
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