Lumi, that last post put me in a "Oh Shit scenario"...
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Sorry Chad !
Reading the crawls on all 3 of the cable news nteworks are showing that there is minor civil disobedience. How long can the people who got whacked by Irene deal with out power, water, and the basic creature comforts of the 21st century?
I don't know if you are goofing? :shrug:
It's OK if you are, I know that I am goofed on, it's something I deal with.
I leave again for another 10 days away from my gear. Starting monday the 5th.
I fly from Ontario, Ca, to Atl, to Ashville, NC
Then from NC to Albany NY.
Then I fly out on the 11th ! :scared :facepalm: Yes, I do have a little of a butt pucker !
I lied ! My ass is so tight flying that day that you couldn't pound a greased BB up my butt with a Ball Peen Hammer !
From Albany I go to Chicago then finally get home ! FUCK ! what a trip !
Tell me this, are you not the least bit concerned about a spiralling population on the East Coast?
NorthCom is and has trained for bad JUJU !
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Garden Plot & Rex 84
Back in late 2010, the Army Corps of Engineers inadvertently posted information about Northcom?s CONPLAN 3502, included within information about a FEMA-simulated earthquake drill called National Level Exercise 2011.
The documents reveal how a secret Pentagon Civil Disturbance Operations plan calls for military-operated detention and search operations within the United States. It is mentioned in a
Defense Support of Civil Authorities (DSCA) Handbook that was prepared by the Army?s Joint Test and Evaluation Command. It was also
mentioned by General Victor E. Renuart, Northcom commander, in testimony before the House Armed Services Committee?s subcommittee on Terrorism and Unconventional Threats and Capabilities on March 5, 2008.
More information
can be found here. IndyMedia provided
extrensive coverage, not that the
New York Times or the
Washington Post noticed. The establishment press was uniformly silent.
CONPLAN 3502 surfaced again this week as the Brits scrambled to confront riots sweeping their country.
?With British Prime Minister David Cameron authorizing the use of rubber bullets and water canons in wake of the turbulent London riots spreading through Britain, questions have been raised about how authorities in the U.S. would respond to a similar domestic disturbance threatening the nation?s stability,? writes
John Hudson for the Atlantic Wire.
?According to
National Journal?s White House correspondent Marc Ambinder the U.S. already has a game plan in place. ?If what happened in London ever happened in the US, the military has plans ? CONPLAN 3501 and 3502 ? to suppress the ?insurrection,? he
tweeted. The mysterious reference to a numbered military plan generated a
flurry of interest on Twitter as NPR host
Michele Norris shot back: ?I want to know more about the military?s plan to suppress any potential ?insurrection.?? CONPLAN 3501 and 3502?????
Hudson continues:
Interestingly, the CONPLAN (which stands for an ?operation plan in concept format? at the Pentagon) Ambinder referenced is a popular subject among conspiracy theorists and critics of martial law. According to the public policy organization
GlobalSecurity.org, CONPLAN 3502 is the U.S. military?s plan for assisting state and local authorities in the event of a riot or major civil disturbance: ?Tasks performed by military forces may include joint patrolling with law enforcement officers; securing key buildings, memorials, intersections and bridges; and acting as a quick reaction force.?
The Brits may be scratching their heads, but the feds over here in the states have had plans in place for decades to deal with civil unrest. Following the riots of the 1960s, the U.S. Army and National Guard devised Operation Garden Plot.
Infowars.com reported the posting of several declassified documents detailing on Operation Garden Plot back in 2009.
Garden Plot still exists and is now under the operational command of Northcom. It was last activated during the attacks of September 11, 2001, and also became operational during the 1992 Los Angeles riots.
Hayden?s Note:
It is my belief that Operation Garden Plot and Noble Eagle-like activation was witnessed in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina. I was a police officer there at the time and it fulfilled the plan to a T. Joint patrols with civil authorities, checkpoints for major arteries in and out of the city, soldiers and Humvees stationed at major intersections and bridges, assistance in imposing an unlawful curfew against all citizens, gun confiscation, and even business checks. These ?patrols? involved the use of thermal image cameras mounted on the Humvees, looking for warm bodies moving through the darkness and debris, riding with various SWAT teams and responding to gun fights, looting and even conducting traffic stops and simple drug enforcement.
I happened to get into a short argument with one soldier in early 2006 when they were still assigned to patrols of the streets. I asked him under what authority was he operating. I questioned him as to if he understood what the Posse Comitatus Act and Insurrection Act meant and stood for. I further stated that their continued presence was a slap in the face to the Constitution, the Rule of Law and the citizens of the city. Normal, everyday, law-abiding people were terrified of the military patrols and convoys, hiding due to the terror incited by the Amtrak train station prison, stories about prolonged detention incommunicado and abuse at the hands of varied pseudo-law enforcement agencies, such as the NYPD Corrections team, California Highway Patrol and private contractors. I witnessed all of these fears first-hand, so they were not wild conspiracies or irrational fears.
He simply handed me a piece of paper and said, ?This is my authority.?
It was a general directive from his commander as to his duties. I laughed and told him he was a silly little puppet with his head in the sand and that only civil authority, i.e. the Sheriff?s Office, State Police and the New Orleans Police Department, the uniform that I was wearing, had authority to be conducting any of these operations. He waddled back to his Humvee, which had a large anti-vehicle machine gun attached to the top and began chatting with his fellow soldiers who all simultaneously looked up in anger at me.
It should be noted that these soldiers, from out-of-state, were still patrolling and involved in drug and traffic enforcement well past the ?emergency.? The Hurricane struck the city at the end of August, 2005 and the military had a strong presence until well past Mardi Gras ? February/March/April of 2006. It was not until September of 2006 that the Insurrection Act was amended to allow the President to deploy troops for law enforcement duties during natural disasters but even that was repealed in the 2008 Defense Authorization Act.
Annex A, section B of Operation Garden Plot defines tax protesters, militia groups, religious cults, and anti-government activists as ?Disruptive Elements.?
Hayden?s Note II:
I suppose I fall into 3 out of those 4 categories: [Income] Tax protester, militia member (every able-bodied person of the Many States), not a member of a religious cult but I would surely be labeled an anti-government activist? Then again, so would most of the Founding Fathers, so I reside in good company. I?m also into emergency preparedness, and according to one of the latest FBI bulletins, that?s a sure-sign of a potential domestic terrorist.
Garden Plot is a sub program of
Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, that established an undisclosed number of concentration camps in America for the internment of dissidents and other elements considered enemies of the state. It was first revealed during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently reported upon by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987, so it is not a conspiracy theory
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Army Times Details Army Invasion of U.S.
Army Combat Team to Train for ?Homeland Scenarios? Under NorthCom
Gina Cavallaro
Army TimesSeptember 18, 2008
The 3rd Infantry Division?s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.
Now they?re training for the same mission ? with a twist ? at home.
Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.
It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.
But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.
After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.
?Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future,? said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. ?Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.?
The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where they?ll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency mission in the war zones.
Stop-loss will not be in effect, so soldiers will be able to leave the Army or move to new assignments during the mission, and the operational tempo will be variable.
Don?t look for any extra time off, though. The at-home mission does not take the place of scheduled combat-zone deployments and will take place during the so-called dwell time a unit gets to reset and regenerate after a deployment.
The 1st of the 3rd is still scheduled to deploy to either Iraq or Afghanistan in early 2010, which means the soldiers will have been home a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out.
In the meantime, they?ll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it.
They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.
Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the ?jaws of life? to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.
The 1st BCT?s soldiers also will learn how to use ?the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,? 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.
?It?s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they?re fielding. They?ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we?re undertaking we were the first to get it.?
The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.
?I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,? said Cloutier, describing the experience as ?your worst muscle cramp ever ? times 10 throughout your whole body.
?I?m not a small guy, I weigh 230 pounds ? it put me on my knees in seconds.?
The brigade will not change its name, but the force will be known for the next year as a CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF (pronounced ?sea-smurf?).
?I can?t think of a more noble mission than this,? said Cloutier, who took command in July. ?We?ve been all over the world during this time of conflict, but now our mission is to take care of citizens at home ? and depending on where an event occurred, you?re going home to take care of your home town, your loved ones.?
While soldiers? combat training is applicable, he said, some nuances don?t apply.
?If we go in, we?re going in to help American citizens on American soil, to save lives, provide critical life support, help clear debris, restore normalcy and support whatever local agencies need us to do, so it?s kind of a different role,? said Cloutier, who, as the division operations officer on the last rotation, learned of the homeland mission a few months ago while they were still in Iraq.
Some brigade elements will be on call around the clock, during which time they?ll do their regular marksmanship, gunnery and other deployment training. That?s because the unit will continue to train and reset for the next deployment, even as it serves in its CCMRF mission.
Should personnel be needed at an earthquake in California, for example, all or part of the brigade could be scrambled there, depending on the extent of the need and the specialties involved.
Other branches included
The active Army?s new dwell-time mission is part of a NorthCom and DOD response package.
Active-duty soldiers will be part of a force that includes elements from other military branches and dedicated National Guard Weapons of Mass Destruction-Civil Support Teams.
A final mission rehearsal exercise is scheduled for mid-September at Fort Stewart and will be run by Joint Task Force Civil Support, a unit based out of Fort Monroe, Va., that will coordinate and evaluate the interservice event.
In addition to 1st BCT, other Army units will take part in the two-week training exercise, including elements of the 1st Medical Brigade out of Fort Hood, Texas, and the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade from Fort Bragg, N.C.
There also will be Air Force engineer and medical units, the Marine Corps Chemical, Biological Initial Reaction Force, a Navy weather team and members of the Defense Logistics Agency and the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.
One of the things Vogler said they?ll be looking at is communications capabilities between the services.
?It is a concern, and we?re trying to check that and one of the ways we do that is by having these sorts of exercises. Leading up to this, we are going to rehearse and set up some of the communications systems to make sure we have interoperability,? he said.
?I don?t know what America?s overall plan is ? I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they?re called,? Cloutier said. ?It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home.?
