The only thing we have to fear......

[Old School]

600k is no big deal in a population of 350M. The vaccine is good for those who need it. Most don't. You can't ignore the fact that the vaccine is killing healthy people.

Wow!

 

[Cie]

Anyone here considering having their 12-17yo kids vaccinated ? My boys are 14 and 15 now. Neither have been or will be vaxxed based on current information re:heart inflammation in young males.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

Anyone here considering having their 12-17yo kids vaccinated ? My boys are 14 and 15 now. Neither have been or will be vaxxed based on current information re:heart inflammation in young males.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...id-vaccine-link-heart-issue-cdc-says-n1270339

A higher-than-usual number of cases of a type of heart inflammation has been reported following Covid-19 vaccination, especially among young men following their second dose of an mRNA vaccine, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday.
Overall, 226 cases of myocarditis or pericarditis after vaccination in people younger than age 30 have been confirmed, Dr. Tom Shimabukuro, deputy director of the CDC's Immunization Safety Office, said during a presentation to a Food and Drug Administration advisory group. Further investigation is needed, however, to confirm whether the vaccination was the cause of the heart problem.

Normally, fewer than 100 cases would be expected for this age group.
Teenagers and people in their early 20s accounted for more than half of the myocarditis cases reported to the CDC's safety monitoring systems following Covid-19 vaccination, despite representing a fraction of people who have received the shots.
"We clearly have an imbalance there," Shimabukuro said.

The vast majority of the cases were sent home following a visit to a hospital as of the end of May. It's unclear how many patients were admitted to the hospital, or, for example, were discharged following a visit to the emergency room. Fifteen patients remain hospitalized, with three in intensive care units. Two of the patients in the ICU had other health problems.
The CDC had information on the recovery of patients in 220 cases; in more than 80 percent of these cases, patients got better on their own.
Following the presentation, Dr. Cody Meissner, chief of pediatric infectious diseases at the Tufts Children's Hospital in Boston, said "it is hard to deny that there's some event that seems to be occurring in terms of myocarditis."

Myocarditis is condition that involves inflammation of the heart muscle. Symptoms can include fever and fatigue, as well as shortness of breath and a very specific type of chest pain. Patients tend to say their chest hurts more when they lean forward. The pain tends to abate when they lean back.

When needed, treatment may involve anti-inflammatory drugs, such as ibuprofen, and in some cases, an intravenous medication called IVIG.

Generally, children who have myocarditis will follow up with a cardiologist for about six months to make sure there are no other significant problems. Most cases are generally mild and go away on their own.
Vaccine safety experts are always on the lookout for a range of possible side effects following any new vaccine. Despite the increased number of reported myocarditis cases among young people, Shimabukuro said, no major red flags have been identified.
Still, the higher-than-normal incidence is worthy of further scrutiny. The CDC will hold a meeting of its Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices on June 18 to further look at the evidence and assess the risk of myocarditis following vaccination.
Until definitive links are made, health officials overwhelmingly recommend Covid-19 vaccinations for everyone ages 12 and older.

 

[homedog]

Anyone here considering having their 12-17yo kids vaccinated ? My boys are 14 and 15 now. Neither have been or will be vaxxed based on current information re:heart inflammation in young males.

Absolutely no need to vaccinate kids. Good call.

 

[JSom]

Anyone here considering having their 12-17yo kids vaccinated ? My boys are 14 and 15 now. Neither have been or will be vaxxed based on current information re:heart inflammation in young males.

What kind of nonsense they do not write about a vaccine, just to prevent people from getting vaccinated and stop the spread of COVID. If I were you, I would read information from the WHO or CDC website, and not idle gossip on second-rate sites.

 

[JT]

600,000 no big deal? Nice, reminds me of Stalin's quote, "One death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic.' Nice job asshole. :facepalm:

 

[CryBoy]

At of today, my wife and I have agreed to not have our two daughters (10, 14) vaccinated against the Coronavirus.

The WHO, CDC, Dr. Fauci, the former surgeon general Jerome Adams, and many others have either lied or were just guessing about the Coronavirus epidemic. At the start of the pandemic, Adams said masks are ineffective against this virus. Only a few weeks later, he advocates that the entire nation should were masks. Same with Fauci! First?No masks. Then masks. Then two masks?or even three would be better. A year ago, Fauci said hand shaking will be the thing of the past. People will greet each other like the Japanese (bow) or with elbow or fist bumps from now on.

Not 100%... You would think that 100% of FDA and CDC employees are vaccinated by now. They are not! Check out the May 11 Senate hearing.

It is not that I do not trust the vaccine because both my wife and I have been fully vaccinated. I just don?t think my children need the shot. I have my reasons. (1) My three nephews have had the virus and have come out of it unscathed. My neighbor?s two kids tested positive for the Corona virus and showed zero symptoms. This in my opinion is the best-case scenario, which is to allow your body to fight the virus itself. (2) Since my kids have returned to school for face-to-face learning in March, there have been zero cases of the Corona virus on their respective campuses. (3) My kids are healthy. I feel they should be able to recover if they get infected. Why not just take the vaccine? It is a gamble, but I think it is better in the long run if you can recover from the infection naturally. (4) Booster shots! They (the CDC and other health experts) are hinting that you should get the jab every year going forward. Screw that!

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

At of today, my wife and I have agreed to not have our two daughters (10, 14) vaccinated against the Coronavirus.

The WHO, CDC, Dr. Fauci, the former surgeon general Jerome Adams, and many others have either lied or were just guessing about the Coronavirus epidemic. At the start of the pandemic, Adams said masks are ineffective against this virus. Only a few weeks later, he advocates that the entire nation should were masks. Same with Fauci! First?No masks. Then masks. Then two masks?or even three would be better. A year ago, Fauci said hand shaking will be the thing of the past. People will greet each other like the Japanese (bow) or with elbow or fist bumps from now on.

Not 100%... You would think that 100% of FDA and CDC employees are vaccinated by now. They are not! Check out the May 11 Senate hearing.

They didn't understand exactly how the virus spread in the first month or so. They gave us the best advice they had based on the info they were working with. That's not lying, that's being honest. It's all you can hope for isn't it? Based on the latest scientific evidence, they give us the best recommendations.

I'm sure there are plenty of knuckleheads working in some capacity for the FDA and CDC, so not surprised that they have some anti-vaxxers among their ranks.

 

[JT]

Never watched Fauci and hung on everything the cdc stated. Early last year did my own research reading articles and watcing videos of disease experts and decided it was real and looked into the history of the spanish flu and realized that this would probably last a year and a half and stayed the course. Guess what, it as been about a year and a half. I am no rhodes scholar so don't what so hard about coming to this easy conclusion. Was I so anal that I wore a mask while riding a bike or walking the dog outside? No I didn't but kept my mask with me in case I encountered a crowd. As for kids being vaccinated I do understand/respect a reluctance until official fda approval.

 

[Scrapman]

the only thing we have to fear is NOT having weapon drawn when some nut job wants to shoot innocentsFEEL like we went backwards like the old west days.

:0002

 

[homedog]

At of today, my wife and I have agreed to not have our two daughters (10, 14) vaccinated against the Coronavirus.

The WHO, CDC, Dr. Fauci, the former surgeon general Jerome Adams, and many others have either lied or were just guessing about the Coronavirus epidemic. At the start of the pandemic, Adams said masks are ineffective against this virus. Only a few weeks later, he advocates that the entire nation should were masks. Same with Fauci! First?No masks. Then masks. Then two masks?or even three would be better. A year ago, Fauci said hand shaking will be the thing of the past. People will greet each other like the Japanese (bow) or with elbow or fist bumps from now on.

Not 100%... You would think that 100% of FDA and CDC employees are vaccinated by now. They are not! Check out the May 11 Senate hearing.

It is not that I do not trust the vaccine because both my wife and I have been fully vaccinated. I just don?t think my children need the shot. I have my reasons. (1) My three nephews have had the virus and have come out of it unscathed. My neighbor?s two kids tested positive for the Corona virus and showed zero symptoms. This in my opinion is the best-case scenario, which is to allow your body to fight the virus itself. (2) Since my kids have returned to school for face-to-face learning in March, there have been zero cases of the Corona virus on their respective campuses. (3) My kids are healthy. I feel they should be able to recover if they get infected. Why not just take the vaccine? It is a gamble, but I think it is better in the long run if you can recover from the infection naturally. (4) Booster shots! They (the CDC and other health experts) are hinting that you should get the jab every year going forward. Screw that!

I agree with you. The WHO and CDC are politically motivated organizations. Fauci helped finance the Chinese made virus. Why would you trust them?

 

[kickserv]

I agree with you. The WHO and CDC are politically motivated organizations. Fauci helped finance the Chinese made virus. Why would you trust them?

You have moved into 2nd place behind Hedgehog, you keep posting moronic shit like the above, you might finish first by the end of the year.:00x23

I didn't think anybody was more ill-informed and idiotic as our Champion Hedgehog, but I might be wrong:scared

I mean you still have some work to do to hit that number one spot, but man oh man, with the dumb shit you continue to post, you just might hit the coveted number 1 spot:00hour

 

[kickserv]

600,000 no big deal? Nice, reminds me of Stalin's quote, "One death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic.' Nice job asshole. :facepalm:

That sums things up nicely.

But you could have thrown in the word idiot and moron along with the word asshole, just sayin'

 

[kickserv]

Absolutely no need to vaccinate kids. Good call.

Just give em a gun, they be fine.

 

[Skulnik]

Never watched Fauci and hung on everything the cdc stated. Early last year did my own research reading articles and watcing videos of disease experts and decided it was real and looked into the history of the spanish flu and realized that this would probably last a year and a half and stayed the course. Guess what, it as been about a year and a half. I am no rhodes scholar so don't what so hard about coming to this easy conclusion. Was I so anal that I wore a mask while riding a bike or walking the dog outside? No I didn't but kept my mask with me in case I encountered a crowd. As for kids being vaccinated I do understand/respect a reluctance until official fda approval.

Biden needs a go getter like you, you should play the LOTTERY.

:lol:

 

[Cie]

Never watched Fauci and hung on everything the cdc stated. Early last year did my own research reading articles and watcing videos of disease experts and decided it was real and looked into the history of the spanish flu and realized that this would probably last a year and a half and stayed the course. Guess what, it as been about a year and a half. I am no rhodes scholar so don't what so hard about coming to this easy conclusion. Was I so anal that I wore a mask while riding a bike or walking the dog outside? No I didn't but kept my mask with me in case I encountered a crowd. As for kids being vaccinated I do understand/respect a reluctance until official fda approval.

Totally. Shocking how many here condemn vax reluctance when it still hasn?t been fda approved. Even funnier is the dipshits around here without kids try to tell those of us with kids to vax our minors.

So many assholes, so little time to deal with them all individually 😂

 

[yyz]

Totally. Shocking how many here condemn vax reluctance when it still hasn?t been fda approved. Even funnier is the dipshits around here without kids try to tell those of us with kids to vax our minors.

So many assholes, so little time to deal with them all individually 😂

I guess some of us are just on the side that doesn't think the government is out to kill us.

 

[SixFive]

I didn?t realize we had so many medical scholars in this forum. Truly enlightening.

I?m ok with anybody?s decision not to vaccinate their children. I?m not vaccinating mine at this time with the current information available.

I was scared of the vaccine. I really was. I did get it Bc I thought it was the right thing to do since my parents are elderly and mainly Bc I was working with sick patients all the time. I thought it was responsible and prudent. My wife on the other hand said fck no she wasn?t having any poison injected into her.

Personally, my autoimmune response to the vaccine has improved with the biweekly shot I have to get. I have noticed lots of commercials now for the drug I receive and for other drugs that end in the letters ?mab?. I surmise many vaccinated people are having these autoimmune type responses. It?s really scary for me having this problem Bc autoimmune shit is real and scary af!

Google Stevens-Johnson syndrome...

I?m still an advocate of wearing masks in the future during flu season. Let?s protect the elderly and greatly reduce the spread of flu. We know how now. Let?s do it.

 

[Cie]

I didn?t realize we had so many medical scholars in this forum. Truly enlightening.

I?m ok with anybody?s decision not to vaccinate their children. I?m not vaccinating mine at this time with the current information available.

I was scared of the vaccine. I really was. I did get it Bc I thought it was the right thing to do since my parents are elderly and mainly Bc I was working with sick patients all the time. I thought it was responsible and prudent. My wife on the other hand said fck no she wasn?t having any poison injected into her.

Personally, my autoimmune response to the vaccine has improved with the biweekly shot I have to get. I have noticed lots of commercials now for the drug I receive and for other drugs that end in the letters ?mab?. I surmise many vaccinated people are having these autoimmune type responses. It?s really scary for me having this problem Bc autoimmune shit is real and scary af!

Google Stevens-Johnson syndrome...

I?m still an advocate of wearing masks in the future during flu season. Let?s protect the elderly and greatly reduce the spread of flu. We know how now. Let?s do it.

No thanks, the elderly, scared, immunocompromised and virtue signalers can mask, isolate or whatever else. I definitely will not mask during flu season until I fit into one of those categories, and most likely wouldn?t mask even if I was old or compromised.

 

[Cie]

I guess some of us are just on the side that doesn't think the government is out to kill us.

I have no clue what you are taking about in that I certainly don?t think the government is trying to kill me. As a vaccinated Adult I have made a choice not to vaccinate my minor sons with with a drug not yet approved by the FDA.