Look, I'm not saying GSP didn't win. But don't let your infatuation with GSP cloud your judgement in terms of his ability to fight like a champion.
UFC 129: "God of MMA vs. Shields", April 30th, Toronto, Ontario
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Look, I'm not saying GSP didn't win. But don't let your infatuation with GSP cloud your judgement in terms of his ability to fight like a champion.
One of the most incredible things I have ever seen in a fight was Wanderli BEGGING the doctors to let him continue against Cro-Cop while his face looked like hamburger meat and he had had the shit kicked out of him.
George is a great fighter but will never show his true potential. He fights safe and does not handle adversity well at all.
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But lets face it, man. Seagal would have finished Jake Shields. Probably would have finished the whole fucking ceasar gracie fight team at once.
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I guess we can all agree that GSP would have finished Shields had he not taken damage from Shields :mj07:
In other news, I could have finished Shields Saturday night if they tied him to a chair and gave me a baseball bat.
In other news, I could have finished Shields Saturday night if they tied him to a chair and gave me a baseball bat.
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I think Dana was giving Aldo shit about his performance because he didn't do the stuff outside the cage that was needed. I heard nothing from Aldo leading up to the fight, and he didn't really participate in the press events they had. He kept his head down the whole time while he was being introduced also, the big screen was just had a shot of the top of his head the whole time. The crowd was like wtf. I know thats his thing, but it's not sexy, and I'm sure the UFC "encouraged" him to be more fan friendly and he ignored it.
I think alot of the stuff that gets put out is just games. Hominck is a tought kid, but he only lasted that long because Aldo totally gassed. In that first round Aldo just dominated in every facet of MMA, 10-8. But even in round two he visibly started to slow down. After the fight he said he had a tough cut because he had been putting on weight.
This has to be because he is planned to move up to 155, why would he put on weight that hampers his performance at 145 :shrug:. Thats why they were hyping Hominck so much as well (even through that first round beating, almost pretending like it wasnt happening), because he would be in the title picture for sure if Aldo vacated his belt.
I don't think Hominck would have lasted past the 2nd with aldo at a "true" 145. Aldo still almost finshed (should have been stopped) even though he was nearly dead, and pretty much collapsed in that last round.
I love Aldo and hope he moves up but I think the difference in "fighters" will be too much at 155. There are too many good and more importantly big wrestlers at 155. With guys that are quick at one class you really have to wonder what the extra weight will do that quickness moving up. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't care if I am or not, I just want to see him test himself.
Same for GSP, there's just nothing left for him a WW. Fight a big name MW, hype the Anderson fight if he wins(maybe have an AS fight on the same card) and then let them go after it. IMO part of being great at a sport or anything for that matter is testing yourself against the biggest odds you can test yourself. GSP won't do hurt his legacy if he moves up but he can make himself the GOAT in mma at this point if he was to be AS.
Same for GSP, there's just nothing left for him a WW. Fight a big name MW, hype the Anderson fight if he wins(maybe have an AS fight on the same card) and then let them go after it. IMO part of being great at a sport or anything for that matter is testing yourself against the biggest odds you can test yourself. GSP won't do hurt his legacy if he moves up but he can make himself the GOAT in mma at this point if he was to be AS.
He was getting beatin from pillar to post. Hurt 4 different times. He was gonna get knocked out. Most embarassing so called number one contender i ever saw and u bought that hype hook line and sinker.
Lay u guys all say the same thing about nothing left but i dont agree. How about this kid Jake Ellenberger. Every match he gets better. That Canadian he fought had some really nice hands and he smashed him. Nuetralized the JU Jitz guy the fight before. How about Condit? I still tthink GSP wins but it still would be a good fight. How about Rumble? A little more experience and he could give GSP some trouble.
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His speed looked alright in that first round, I'm not really sure how he'll do, but the 155 will be epic with Melendez, Aldo, Shinya Aoki. The 155 class was looking really bad before, I think they were grooming clay guida for a title shot :facepalm:
I think frank edgar gets smashed by somebody soon, and moves down to 145, I like him better there anyways.
GSP fucked up that superfight with his performance, imo. I with the people that think he will get beat by any decent big name at 185 (unless its bisping or somebody similar). I thought nate marquardt would kill him at 185 and now he has cut down to 170, I don't know how the cut will effect him, but marquardt is the prototype to beat GSP.
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I watched that fight again and during the entire second round shields was swinging without making a fist, The fucking guy looked like wolverine out there. I swear the eye poke was the gameplan going into round 2.
Ok....listen. Some of you guys just don't think. Imagine that you are GSP. You are the champion. The opponent you are fighting tonight is inferior to you in the stand up, but has good enough ground technique to beat you. So, again, if you are GSP, why on earth would you want to subject yourself to any kind of ground game? Also, if you are GSP, you can't make your opponent fight worth a shit. If he has lackluster stand up, obviously the fight isn't going to be a great view. Why does the onus fall solely on GSP here, in some of your eyes? I understand that the fight wasn't awesome to watch, but after GSP got his eye injured, he was in damage control mode, I'm sure. All he wanted to do was win the fight. Of course his face was going to take some damage. He couldnt see out of one eye....and a lot of the damage he took was under that bad eye.....I wonder why?! But you can't tell me with a straight face that the score to that fight should have been anything but 49-46 or better for GSP. The fight was a 50-45 fight....almost no doubt...but I can see where Shields may have eeeked out the 5th round.
He was? I saw differently. A lot of the strikes GSP landed looked like they had nothing to them. Sure he "hurt" him with a couple shots that dropped Jake, but it's not like he folded up, he was alert and ready right away.
That fight was at no point EVER close to being over.
He was beatin from pillar to post? Kinda like Jake landed more strikes than GSP though? LMFAO
I don't disagree whole heartedly with what you say. But these same words you speak of aren't the same words being spewed when Anderson Silva doesn't highlight knockout or submit someone.
Honestly, I think where GSP and Silva differ here in this case is that GSP is well liked and Silva just isn't as likeable as Silva. I'm not saying there aren't people out there that love Silva, but a lot more people love GSP than Silva, IMO. Being well liked helps in this case. Not only from a marketing standpoint, but from a gate and PPV standpoint too.
I really hope that these two work something out to fight each other. I know kickserv would be shitting his pants tho :scared
Deep down, I don't think GSP nor the UFC really want to see that fight. Because the ONLY way the UFC benefits from it is by a GSP win. It crushes him and the UFC if he loses. Especially considering Anderson only has a handful of fights left IMO
Defact try and look at about 136 left in the third round. That is when GSP started blinking. I saw Shields throwin open hands the whole two rounds . I can't get a feed with slow mo. He might have also hit him with the leather finger tips from the glove but as for a straight up punch i didn't see it. If he did then he deserves some credit.
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They released a slow mo vid, definitely an eye poke. He looks just like wolverine :mj07:
http://www.mmatko.com/georges-st-pierre-getting-poked-in-the-eye-by-jake-shields-slow-mo-video/
You can see a definite change in his style after round one. It's like GSP demoralized him and he decided t fight dirty. Shields doesn't seem like a bad guy but I wouldn't put it past his camp.
Even if it wasn't a poke, I would still say he's at fault cause he planned an "inadvertent" eye punch which is illegal.
Anyone want to say that wasn't an eyepoke again? Case closed. A blatant eyepoke that change the whole fight around. From getting beaten from pillar to post to just getting smacked around. All that bullshit from GSP about this being his hardest fight was bullshit. He knew this was gonna be one of his easiest when at the weighin he said "Don't Blink" U don't say something like that and think it is gonna be ur hardest fight.
