UFC 87: Seek and Destroy - Aug 9th, Minneapolis, MN

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gardenweasel said:
faber got smacked around pretty good by tyson griffin...you should watch it on youtube.......


he`s good...but,the wec isn`t the ufc..

you know who really is a beast in his weight class?...little miguel torres....
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Well after top 3 it is very much up for personal opinion on 4-10.
That was 3 years ago.
Everyone has off days just ask Anderson Silva who lost to Ryo back in the day.

Would love to see Torres meet Faber. Faber may be a little overrated but he has been dominate since Griffin fight.

Why is Huerta an underdog??
I think he takes care of KenFlo with no serious issues.
 
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kegray1 said:
Well after top 3 it is very much up for personal opinion on 4-10.
That was 3 years ago.
Everyone has off days just ask Anderson Silva who lost to Ryo back in the day.

Would love to see Torres meet Faber. Faber may be a little overrated but he has been dominate since Griffin fight.

Why is Huerta an underdog??
I think he takes care of KenFlo with no serious issues.
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i was thinking just the opposite......but i gotta admit,i`m a tad worried about huerta`s wrestling and vicious pace....

i`m sticking with florian,but,i`m having second thoughts....huerta may just try and keep florian on his back....

in that case i`d be relegated to having to get a submission to win......

jesus.....my new avatar looks pretty f-cking gay.....i didn`t realize how swish the damned thing looked....

looks like a rodent truman capote...
 
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gardenweasel said:
i was thinking just the opposite......but i gotta admit,i`m a tad worried about huerta`s wrestling and vicious pace....

i`m sticking with florian,but,i`m having second thoughts....huerta may just try and keep florian on his back....

in that case i`d be relegated to having to get a submission to win......

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Perfect fight to just enjoy and not get involved in betting.
 
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Bucs....give it up buddy.....you are so wrong, GSP is the best or perhaps 2nd best MMA fighter out there...you are just going to have to accept it. He's incredible...deal with it
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Kick lets see when he fights someone with good hands. He seems to be fighting the same type of styles every match. Serra was the only guy with decent hands in years. When he beats someone like Swick then i will be a believer.
 
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The Sponge said:
Kick lets see when he fights someone with good hands. He seems to be fighting the same type of styles every match. Serra was the only guy with decent hands in years. When he beats someone like Swick then i will be a believer.
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I just think GSP has been preped for his hype. All of his fights have been stylistic in his favor. Just simply bad matchups for his opponents. We've all seen what can happen when he fights a guy not even in the top 10 of WWs who can strike.

I'm not sure the GSP reality will ever come because when you look at the welterweights, they're for the most part, wrestlers. I want to see him go up against the elite guys who's game is rounded completely.

Honestly, kick, you would never want to see him fight Anderson Silva. You'd probably be devestated by the outcome and how badly he destroyed GSP.
 
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BUcs.....when GSP beats up Fitch you still won't accept he's top 2 in the world, GSP could beat Fedor and Anderson with one arm tied behind his back and you'd still say he sucks....as I said.....you are on a lot acid, and enormous amount of acid:scared

GSP is incredible......enough said.
 
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Fight Card has changed again.................


Fight Card
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-Georges St. Pierre vs. Jon Fitch
-Kenny Florian vs. Roger Huerta
-Brock Lesnar vs. Heath Herring
-Demian Maia vs. Jason MacDonald
-Manny Gamburyan vs. Rob Emerson
-Cheick Kongo vs. Dan Evensen
-Andre Gusmao vs. Jon Jones
-Steve Bruno vs. Chris Wilson
-Tamdan McCrory vs. Luke Cummo
-Ben Saunders vs. Ryan Thomas
 
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adding plays...........


MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 20-11
Fighter vs. Fighter 82-103
Parlays 45-50

+87.31 Joe Rogans



Jason MacDonald beat Demian Maia $3.30 *2 Joe Rogans

Georges St-Pierre beat Jon Fitch $1.31 *9 Joe Rogans :jump: :142hump:

St-Pierre wins inside distance $1.56 *3 Joe Rogans



Fitch = :00x4


GSP = :00x23
GSP = :142hail: :142hail:
 
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kickserv said:
BUcs.....when GSP beats up Fitch you still won't accept he's top 2 in the world, GSP could beat Fedor and Anderson with one arm tied behind his back and you'd still say he sucks....as I said.....you are on a lot acid, and enormous amount of acid:scared

GSP is incredible......enough said.
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Easy to throw things out there like that when you know that it'll never happen.

GSP is overrated.
 
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adding a play.....................

MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 20-11
Fighter vs. Fighter 86-107
Parlays 45-52

+85.16 Joe Rogans



Jason MacDonald beat Demian Maia $3.30 *2 Joe Rogans

Georges St-Pierre beat Jon Fitch $1.31 *9 Joe Rogans :firing: :firing: :firing:

St-Pierre wins inside distance $1.56 *3 Joe Rogans

Rob Emerson beat Manny Gamburyan $3.55 *1 Joe Rogan
 
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adding..............


MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 20-11
Fighter vs. Fighter 86-107
Parlays 45-52

+85.16 Joe Rogans



Jason MacDonald beat Demian Maia $3.30 *2 Joe Rogans

Jason MacDonald beat Demian Maia $3.50 *1 Joe Rogan

Georges St-Pierre beat Jon Fitch $1.31 *9 Joe Rogans :11jackson :11jackson

St-Pierre wins inside distance $1.56 *3 Joe Rogans

St-Pierre wins in round 2 $5.55 *0.25 Joe Rogan

St-Pierre wins in round 3 $7.70 *0.25 Joe Rogan

Rob Emerson beat Manny Gamburyan $3.55 *1 Joe Rogan
 
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Bucs, will you post your plays?

I know little of UFC except that the guys here - both GSP-lovers and GSP-haters - do a great job of capping, and I look forward to reading your picks. Give me money. Now.
 
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gardenweasel said:
in principle,i agree......but at -340?........that shoulder could come back to bite you on the arse,eddie....

i like manny here...but,i don`t think emerson is a pushover...
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I agree completely Garden. If they stay healthy during the fight Manny wins. You just never know when he is going to pop something.

Kenflo over Huerta (LARGE). Maxed out multiple times at -150. I think Kenflo does everything a little bit better than Huerta. Roger wins a lot of his fights due to great conditioning. This time he is facing someone who will not run out of gas.

Herring over Brock (Big) at +235. Herring's biggest wins came against monster wrestlers in Kerr and Erickson.
Who knows what Brock's gas will be like after a couple of rounds if he cannot take Heath out.

Good luck all.
 
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I don't really want to bet on this card for the simple fact that there are fighters that I want to win, and fighters I want to lose. I've learned that betting with my heart is no way to win money, but only to lose money.

If you really want to know what I think, I want Fitch, Emerson, Huerta, and Lesnar all 4 to win. I don't like GSP, Florian, Manny, and I simply want Lesnar to win; nothing against Heath Herring.

As for other fights, I like:

Kongo, MacDonald, McCrory, Wilson, Gusmao, Saunders.
 
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i don`t see the fascination with evensen...he`s stepped up twice to fight semi-recognizable guys(dan bobish and wellisch)...both times came up short...and bobish and wellisch hardly strike fear in the hearts of top tier guys....


curious to see the odds on this one...
 
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GW............here are the odds you requested:

*from BetCris

DAN EVENSEN ...........$5.00 (+400)
CHEICK KONGO ...........$1.18 (-545)
 
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