Yeah the over unders have been pretty brutal thar last few weeks. No play is probably best. Well, I am off to the fights tonight.
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!
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Yeah the over unders have been pretty brutal thar last few weeks. No play is probably best. Well, I am off to the fights tonight.
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!
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Escobedo Blows Out Kelley
2004 U.S. Olympian Vicente Escobedo continued his rise from prospect to title contender with a two-round blowout of faded star Kevin Kelley in a scheduled ten-round lightweight bout on Thursday night at the ARCO Arena in Sacramento, California. After a competitive first round, Escobedo caught Kelley with a counter right hook early in round two, sending the ?Flushing Flash? to the canvas. Kelley beat the count but Escobedo was all over him, landing several unanswered punches along the ropes before Kelley went down again. Kelley barely beat the count but referee Jon Schorle waved it off at 1:53.
2004 U.S. Olympian Vicente Escobedo continued his rise from prospect to title contender with a two-round blowout of faded star Kevin Kelley in a scheduled ten-round lightweight bout on Thursday night at the ARCO Arena in Sacramento, California. After a competitive first round, Escobedo caught Kelley with a counter right hook early in round two, sending the ?Flushing Flash? to the canvas. Kelley beat the count but Escobedo was all over him, landing several unanswered punches along the ropes before Kelley went down again. Kelley barely beat the count but referee Jon Schorle waved it off at 1:53.
Yeah Escobedo just threw a few jabs the first round to see what Kelly had left. Kelly threw a couple of good punches and the first round was even. The 2nd round Escobedo landed a good straight right hand and Kelly was down on his back. Then, Escobedo got Kelly against the ropes and knocked him down again. Kelly was lying on his stomach while the ref counted and Kelly got up at 10 and pretended he didn't hear the count or that he still wanted to fight. It was fun while it lasted and the majority of the fights ended in knockouts so that was exciting. Escobedo didn't prove much tonight and Kelly should retire because he can't take a punch at all now, but I still had a good time.
One fighter than looked like a good prospect was super middleweight Brandon Gonzales. I will be anxious to see him fight again. He has power, speed, and altheticism.
unofficial but I heard McCall was a fit 244 and hobo about 235. I have a boatload on McCall. Of course anything can happen when you have 2 big guys but Hobo has zero skillset. I think McCall probably wins in the early rds. Whats your take Kramden?
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Yeah, I got to go with McCall. Hop was blipped once and lost a decision to a nobody. His best win was against tough but old and fat Bob Mirovic and Mirovic apparently had an arm injury and folded in the 9th. The McCall that fought Gomez and Sanil Sam should beat this guy plain and simple. And McCall does have a beard. It would be a complete shock if the rugby player could dent the chin of the former crackhead.
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From Doug Fischer's column on ringtv.com
FOUR GYMS IN THREE DAYS
Monday, May 18:
"I dropped by the Fortune Gym on 7574 Sunset Boulevard (near Fairfax), owned and operated by Australian Justin Fortune. The fighter-turned-trainer was Freddie Roach?s head assistant for many years before an acrimonious split in 2007.
Friedman used my Facebook page to tip me off to former heavyweight titleholder Lamon Brewster?s sparring sessions with John ?Hoppa? Hopoate, a Tongan rugby player from Australia who is giving boxing a try.
Hopoate (11-2, 11 KOs) is scheduled to fight former champ Oliver McCall at The Orleans Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas this Friday.
I figured Monday was probably Hopoate?s last day of sparring, so I made sure to be there...
The most interesting sparring session I observed was between Hopoate and Lionel Butler. Yes, THAT Butler, the former heavyweight journeyman who worked his way to contender status in the 1990s before a one-sided loss to Lennox Lewis and a drug problem took him out of the sport.
Butler, who says he weighed 320 pounds when he began training at the Fortune Gym a month ago, now weighs around 270, which is still heavy. However, he looked sharp bobbing and weaving his way inside on Hopoate, where he assaulted the Australian with uppercut and body-shot combinations.
Hopoate got off with a nice, fast jab, but he had trouble with Butler?s head movement and pressure. They went to war whenever Butler worked his way in close. The four rounds Hopoate went with Butler and the four he went with Brewster is just what the rugby player needs to make up for his late start in the sport (he?s 35) and his lack of amateur experience.
Hopoate, a 15-year rugby veteran who supposedly has the record for suspensions, possesses athletic tools and toughness. He just needs to learn how to relax in the ring and how to deal with various styles. Brewster (35-4, 30 KOs) gave him a different ?look? from Butler, preferring to work primarily from the outside behind a heavy jab.
It took him three rounds, but Hopoate eventually figured out that his best bet against Brewster was to back the powerhouse up to the ropes and smother his punches.
McCall is 44 years old and probably has no business being licensed to fight, but if Hopoate allows the veteran to fight at his pace and from a distance, he will give the tough-as-nails old man a chance to win. To decisively beat McCall, Hopoate will have to put stress on those wobbly 44-year-old legs and push him back on his heels the way he did (in spots) against the younger, stronger Brewster."
FOUR GYMS IN THREE DAYS
Monday, May 18:
"I dropped by the Fortune Gym on 7574 Sunset Boulevard (near Fairfax), owned and operated by Australian Justin Fortune. The fighter-turned-trainer was Freddie Roach?s head assistant for many years before an acrimonious split in 2007.
Friedman used my Facebook page to tip me off to former heavyweight titleholder Lamon Brewster?s sparring sessions with John ?Hoppa? Hopoate, a Tongan rugby player from Australia who is giving boxing a try.
Hopoate (11-2, 11 KOs) is scheduled to fight former champ Oliver McCall at The Orleans Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas this Friday.
I figured Monday was probably Hopoate?s last day of sparring, so I made sure to be there...
The most interesting sparring session I observed was between Hopoate and Lionel Butler. Yes, THAT Butler, the former heavyweight journeyman who worked his way to contender status in the 1990s before a one-sided loss to Lennox Lewis and a drug problem took him out of the sport.
Butler, who says he weighed 320 pounds when he began training at the Fortune Gym a month ago, now weighs around 270, which is still heavy. However, he looked sharp bobbing and weaving his way inside on Hopoate, where he assaulted the Australian with uppercut and body-shot combinations.
Hopoate got off with a nice, fast jab, but he had trouble with Butler?s head movement and pressure. They went to war whenever Butler worked his way in close. The four rounds Hopoate went with Butler and the four he went with Brewster is just what the rugby player needs to make up for his late start in the sport (he?s 35) and his lack of amateur experience.
Hopoate, a 15-year rugby veteran who supposedly has the record for suspensions, possesses athletic tools and toughness. He just needs to learn how to relax in the ring and how to deal with various styles. Brewster (35-4, 30 KOs) gave him a different ?look? from Butler, preferring to work primarily from the outside behind a heavy jab.
It took him three rounds, but Hopoate eventually figured out that his best bet against Brewster was to back the powerhouse up to the ropes and smother his punches.
McCall is 44 years old and probably has no business being licensed to fight, but if Hopoate allows the veteran to fight at his pace and from a distance, he will give the tough-as-nails old man a chance to win. To decisively beat McCall, Hopoate will have to put stress on those wobbly 44-year-old legs and push him back on his heels the way he did (in spots) against the younger, stronger Brewster."
I don't know guys. McCall is damn old and hasn't fought since late 2007. This Hopoate fellow is a bum....and I'm not saying he is a better pick, but I definitely wouldn't put a "boat load" of money McCall..whos just a big question mark at this point. Whats he fighting for, rent?
I see a few good cappers on Smith and I think he's a bit unproven and Gutierrez will be a little too rough and tumble for him. No way Smith would have given Clottey and Angulo the fights that Gutierrez gave them. This seems like last chance type of deal for Gutierrez - a lil spotlight on ESPN to get him back. Smith's chin unproven also, looks a tad vulnerable to me. Gutierrez TKO 6-8. Smith's lil Toney-Mayweather shoulder-roll, counterpunch imitation won't be enough to scare away badass Gutierrez .
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It should be a good match. Gutierrez is more battle tested but he's been off for a while ( and really looked rough in his draw with Jerome Ellis) and really hasn't looked really good since he drubbed used up Teddy Reid. He handled slower guys like Perez and Varela but hasn't been in with a quick young gun in awhile.
Perro simply ran through him. And if this is at welterweight, that may be tough for Richar (he wants to be called that) to make.And he actually has a MD against Hicklet Lau a few years ago and he's been used up for years. Still, the fight is up for grabs but I'm leaning on the younger, more active Smith to get it done. Should be fun.
Perro simply ran through him. And if this is at welterweight, that may be tough for Richar (he wants to be called that) to make.And he actually has a MD against Hicklet Lau a few years ago and he's been used up for years. Still, the fight is up for grabs but I'm leaning on the younger, more active Smith to get it done. Should be fun.
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McCall ready for return to glory
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/sports/2009/may/22/mcall-ready-return-glory/
Both made weight. Jhonny looks rugged. What is with the visitor. He can't get that smile off his face.
gonzales -260 in mexico?.....what is this guy the second coming of fighting harada?...
McCall ready for return to glory
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/sports/2009/may/22/mcall-ready-return-glory/
Can somebody please post updates on this one...THX!
