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After hearing so much about Chavez jrs. sparring session against Vanes, I finally took I look myself.

Here are my 2 cents:

For once, it was a very intense sparring session! Actually, I can think of a lot of ?real? fights where the fighters fought with less commitment.

Vanes showed better boxing skills and was generally more active, which is no surprise!

Chavez was sometimes EXTREMELY easy to hit, even when he was trying to move away he moved right into some punches?.but he took the punches well and looked like the stronger fighter, which he should be considering he is a middleweight!

Chavez had some success when Vanes let him lean on him and get set to throw his hooks on the inside. No clinching here whatsoever, which could have saved Vanes in those situations!

What was a bit concerning about Chavez (next to his defensive flaws) was that you didn?t get the impression that he was wearing Vanes down. He was even pushed back quite a bit, which might show that he isn?t overly comfortable to set a very high pace.
But that is nothing new either!

So, overall, I think Chavez weaknesses were confirmed! I thought he was pretty unimpressive against Lyell. A guy with his style should be able to set and maintain a better pace!

Zbik is +200 at betonfighing, hmm?.

I agree with all of the above; watched the session 3x. What I must also consider is the following: fighting in Cali, at home; Freddie Roach training; daddy Chavez involved; and last but maybe MOST important Bob "the con artist/bullshit artist" Arum is behind Chavez. I don't see anyone being put to sleep here=go to the scorecards. Can Zbik get a fair shake in this one? I've seen Chavez fight live and I have never been impressed with his skill set. This one stinks like the Fulton fish market on Monday morning.
 

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Interesting observation. No question he looks stronger than in the Green and even Cloud fights. Johnson is a true professional, and seems to have settled into the weight in the proper way.

We knew Johnson would give himself his best possible chance to win.
 

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Per RingTv.com:

Miguel Beltran is out as an opponent for Mikey Garcia this Saturday.


Word is Beltran has a hand injury.

It looks like Rafael Guzman is the replacement opponent.
 
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Chavez-Zbik presser

Chavez-Zbik presser

Top Rank just finished streaming the presser for Chavez-Zbik.

Notes:

Mia St. John showed up and started screaming at Christy Martin. Not sure what the hell the beef is about.

Martin's opponent is like twice her size. Big oafie girl.

Arum stated that the Mikey Garcia bout will still air on TV. HBO has given the green light on the opponent change. I'm happy for Garcia - he deserves TV time.

But unfortunately, a good scrap between Vanes Martirosyan and Saul Roman is OFF TV (as far I can tell).

Chavez stated this was his best camp ever. You train like a champ, you become a champ. Or something to that effect.

Zbik took the podium and, suprisingly, spoke clear English. He thanked his supporters (30 people have flown with him to cheer on the night), and he said he hopes for a great fight. He spoke confidently, but with few words.

If Chavez wins, he becomes the 1st Mexican to win a middleweight title. Zbik would be 1st German to win a title fight in U.S. since Max Schmeling.
 

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Shane wanted to quit after round 10

Shane wanted to quit after round 10

Source: Mosley Wanted To Quit During Pacquiao Fight, Richardson Wouldn't Allow It
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt=printable&id=39828

A couple things come to mind reading this article:

1. Damn, Showtime has done an amazing job with Fight Camp 360. Those are some powerful microphones ringside. They pick up EVERYTHING. Can't wait to see this episode.

2. I am going to bill this mother f'er Nazeem Richardson for my gambling losses. Under 11.5 cost me a shitload that weekend.


"This Saturday night courtesy of Showtime Fight Camp 360 microphones, specifically a lavaliere mike worn by Mosely?s esteemed trainer Naazim Richardson, you?ll learn as will the entire world that either before or after the tenth round, Mosley actually begged his corner to halt the brutal mismatch.

?Shane wanted the fight stopped, he said it in the corner,? this veteran TV man said. ?Shane said he had bad blisters on his foot and wanted the bout to end.

?But Richardson wouldn?t hear of it, refusing to comply with his fighter?s request to quit on the stool. Naazim said something like, ?No, no, you are not cut from that cloth.? Richardson refused to call the ref or the doctor in to tell them his man had enough.?
 

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curious about 5 dimes posting an over 9.5 instead of the obligatory 11.5 for froch/johnson.......even in the -300 and change range, this looks like a primo parlay stuffer....

i only use a few books so maybe others that i`m not aware of are posting 9.5`s....but given the durability of froch and johnson,i`m surprised that o/u 9.5 was even an option.....

:shrug:
 

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:facepalm:

you have to factor inept corners/judges/refs into your handicapping

motherfucker i had bets on pac 9,10, 11

fuck u lol :142smilie
 

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Extremely selfish move on Richardson's part.

Absolutely NO REASON for the last 6 minutes of that bout.

Shane hadn't won a minute....a second....of that fight.

Only reason to ignore his fighter's request - EGO.
 

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12 rounds, Evan

12 rounds, Evan

Thought I heard 10 somewhere. Not certain, though. Maybe Showtime has the proper distance?

Showtime's press release gives the distance as 12 rounds. Below is an extract from the press release:

"The 12-rounder between Kessler (43-2, 32 KOs), of Denmark, and Bouadla (23-3, 11 KOs), of France, will be shown before the LIVE Super Six World Boxing Classic Semifinal on SHOWTIME (delayed on the West Coast) between defending WBC titlist Carl Froch (27-1, 20 KOs) and former world champion Glen Johnson (51-14-2, 35 KOs) of Miami, Fla., at Adrian Philipps Ballroom of Atlantic City?s Boardwalk Hall."
 

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curious about 5 dimes posting an over 9.5 instead of the obligatory 11.5 for froch/johnson.......even in the -300 and change range, this looks like a primo parlay stuffer....

i only use a few books so maybe others that i`m not aware of are posting 9.5`s....but given the durability of froch and johnson,i`m surprised that o/u 9.5 was even an option.....

:shrug:

Line I seen in Nevada is 11.5 over-180. I too cannot see 9.5, and agree a parlay ingredient makes sense.
 

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Showtime's press release gives the distance as 12 rounds. Below is an extract from the press release:

"The 12-rounder between Kessler (43-2, 32 KOs), of Denmark, and Bouadla (23-3, 11 KOs), of France, will be shown before the LIVE Super Six World Boxing Classic Semifinal on SHOWTIME (delayed on the West Coast) between defending WBC titlist Carl Froch (27-1, 20 KOs) and former world champion Glen Johnson (51-14-2, 35 KOs) of Miami, Fla., at Adrian Philipps Ballroom of Atlantic City?s Boardwalk Hall."

Thanks for letting us know.

12 dreary rounds now.
 

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ima try and nab some bam bam - antillon tickets tonight via ticketmaster

$75 a piece looks good

btw, FUCK TICKETMASTER overcharging "service fees" pieces of shiet :mj07:

frankie babyy come to cali for this one

home depot great place to watch the fights :SIB
 
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