Paq-DeLaHoya- I love this

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oscar is now -176 at pinny. normally i bet at the last minute, it appears i should have stuck to that habit. i think it's going to get closer yet.

hopefully,the philippines are going to be in worse financial shape than ford/g.m./chrysler come sunday morning....:mj09:
 

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Weasel: therxforum.com.

yeah...it ain`t what it used to be when we(and tony montana) haunted the place,frankie....i noticed some crazy stuff over there now...

i actually see some dude stole our man weepaul`s moniker and is plagarizing his stuff....

and posters with monikers like "scromagnum man" and "sphincter" ...lol

that place is ca-razy....:lol:
 

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BRAINIAC! Get it? Your killing me. Forget all the other goofs. The brain knows the game!
 
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"That place" has long been the sewer of the internet, with a history of posing as a watchdog while shilling for crooks that opened books and absconded with player funds in exchange for %'s, to blackmailing books to advertise (I was on an island, at a book, when they played me a tape "Drop your ads and I'll have ghosts fill my forums trashing your place as a "no pay.") I know more than a few people who have been banned after pointing out consistent record discrepancies from their favorite football/baskets/baseball posters. Didn't know they had any posters of value, 99% attention seeking gits and shut-ins, rarely stop by cuz I always feel like I need a shower after I do. Seems like all the turds we flushed out of my old house - for cheating, trash talking, shilling, selling, attention seeking etc -resurface there and become "stars". The guy you mention should get out and see the world, climb out of that gutter, join here where it's intelligent info exchange, and not questions pertaining to scat color and consistency.


GWeasel, Frank, how the hell are you?
Hope all is well.

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PACMAN to be GOBBLED UP!!

By Sonny Palermo

Maxim - An established principle; a condensed proposition of important practical truth; an axiom of practical wisdom.


There are a number of ?Maxim?s? that I use to safely (read: profitably) navigate my way through the shark-filled (read: sometimes fixed) waters of wagering on boxing.
One of the oldest in my book states:
?A good big man always beats a good little man.?

All you need to know about weights for the bout is this:
Oscar?s first fight was at 134 pounds.
Manny?s was at 107.

That bears repeating ? Manny?s first fight was at 107.

It is too much of a stretch to 147.

In his six bouts at 130 or more, Manny has lost twice, once to Morales and once to Juan Manuel Marquez (yes, he did).
The most he has ever weighed for a fight was 135.
Oscar has fought and won at 160.

Pacquiao has never really had one punch KO power, his KO?s come from a culmination of power shots, and the little power he does have will not carry over to a weight class that is FORTY pounds heavier than where he started his career. He has no one punch that can hurt Oscar, and before he can land multiple shots that might have a cumulative effect, Oscar will hit back and/or move away.

Freddie Roach says that Manny will work the old man?s body, and take Oscar out late in the fight. What he doesn?t say is that Oscar fired him, and it is bitterness talking, not unbiased fight analysis.

What he doesn?t say is that while Manny is trying to get inside Oscar to work the body he is going to be hit in the head harder than he has ever been hit before, by a natural welterweight.
And he is going to be stunned by it.

Oscar?s detractors point to his recent losses, but those came to a much bigger Bernard Hopkins, and the world best pound for pound, Floyd Mayweather Junior. And the Mayweather fight was much closer than many give Oscar credit for.

Manny couldn?t even get in the ring with Hopkins.

This fight will look like Gatti-DeLaHoya: a game challenger, but in the end, underweight and overmatched.

No deep analysis needed here, both are good fighters,
but a good big man always . . .

The play:
Oscar -170

Wagering advice:
If you are in Vegas, or can get action down in Sin City, wait on this one and make your bet Saturday afternoon. Pacquiao fight betting patterns are always the same. He has a rabid fan base, and Las Vegas has a very large Filipino population. If you?re betting on him, bet early. If you?re betting against him ? wait.

The opening odds of 2-1 have already come down, and will continue to do so right up until just before fight time Saturday night, when last minute smart money/wise-guy dough moves in to take advantage of the lowered odds on Oscar.

If you?re betting on-line and can get less than -190, don?t wait too long; it?ll be gone by Saturday afternoon.

And if you like Pacman ? call me. I?ll book ya . . .
 
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Ya just never know who is going to show up around here!!! We are healthy, not exactly wealthy, and sometimes wise. Again, whatever you got going, may it be blessed. For initially what was considered a "side show" attraction, this fight has generated lots of divergent opinion. You, weasel, and myself, we see this alike. And it seems likely that the number will move as Manny's rabid fans bet their childrens future on this. I know a philipino M.D. that is a fan of Pac-man's that defies description. I run into him at the Meadows Mall last week and HE HAS HIS DOUBTS! Here is a guy that pays mucho bucks to sit ringside, and bets multiple dimes at the window and with guys seated around him. He picks out what look like well heeled folks and bets at the fight and does well, but he is dismayed that Roach/Pac are doing this. Don't be a stranger!
 

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Hey!
My timing was good, glad to see/hear ya.

Things here have been much delayed, but should be completed soon, and hopefully I will be settled in on a new adventure in Vancouver (morning radio talk show, podcast TV show four times a week, and a daily blog) by year's end.

I keep thinking this one plays like Gatti/DeLahoya.

Haven't been to Pinoy Pinay on Maryland recently (GREAT bar-b-q pork on a stick) so I haven't heard from the Filipino Pacman crowd there to see what they say, though most likely "Pac by KO!!" which seems to be their analysis of all his bouts!
(Sometimes they "boo" when I walk in, because I always ride them and say JMM beat Pac.)

I think Roach pushed him into this fight, for his own reasons, and who knows, maybe actually believes he can do it, but I can't see it.
And -170 is a nice price for this match-up.

I went over to the dark side this week - bet MMA.
On advice from a respected source I put out -280 on "Benevadez" on Wed night at Hard Rock. Cashed, but was hard to root for him - skilled, but he has the wrong head on the wrong body, something freakish about him, like an overdeveloped dwarf.
Trying to like the sport, but the old time purist in me says . . .


I'll be around, take care . . .
 
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gardenweasel

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"the bunker"
"That place" has long been the sewer of the internet, with a history of posing as a watchdog while shilling for crooks that opened books and absconded with player funds in exchange for %'s, to blackmailing books to advertise (I was on an island, at a book, when they played me a tape "Drop your ads and I'll have ghosts fill my forums trashing your place as a "no pay.") I know more than a few people who have been banned after pointing out consistent record discrepancies from their favorite football/baskets/baseball posters. Didn't know they had any posters of value, 99% attention seeking gits and shut-ins, rarely stop by cuz I always feel like I need a shower after I do. Seems like all the turds we flushed out of my old house - for cheating, trash talking, shilling, selling, attention seeking etc -resurface there and become "stars". The guy you mention should get out and see the world, climb out of that gutter, join here where it's intelligent info exchange, and not questions pertaining to scat color and consistency.


GWeasel, Frank, how the hell are you?
Hope all is well.

Excerpts from:


PACMAN to be GOBBLED UP!!

By Sonny Palermo

Maxim - An established principle; a condensed proposition of important practical truth; an axiom of practical wisdom.


There are a number of ?Maxim?s? that I use to safely (read: profitably) navigate my way through the shark-filled (read: sometimes fixed) waters of wagering on boxing.
One of the oldest in my book states:
?A good big man always beats a good little man.?

All you need to know about weights for the bout is this:
Oscar?s first fight was at 134 pounds.
Manny?s was at 107.

That bears repeating ? Manny?s first fight was at 107.

It is too much of a stretch to 147.

In his six bouts at 130 or more, Manny has lost twice, once to Morales and once to Juan Manuel Marquez (yes, he did).
The most he has ever weighed for a fight was 135.
Oscar has fought and won at 160.

Pacquiao has never really had one punch KO power, his KO?s come from a culmination of power shots, and the little power he does have will not carry over to a weight class that is FORTY pounds heavier than where he started his career. He has no one punch that can hurt Oscar, and before he can land multiple shots that might have a cumulative effect, Oscar will hit back and/or move away.

Freddie Roach says that Manny will work the old man?s body, and take Oscar out late in the fight. What he doesn?t say is that Oscar fired him, and it is bitterness talking, not unbiased fight analysis.

What he doesn?t say is that while Manny is trying to get inside Oscar to work the body he is going to be hit in the head harder than he has ever been hit before, by a natural welterweight.
And he is going to be stunned by it.

Oscar?s detractors point to his recent losses, but those came to a much bigger Bernard Hopkins, and the world best pound for pound, Floyd Mayweather Junior. And the Mayweather fight was much closer than many give Oscar credit for.

Manny couldn?t even get in the ring with Hopkins.

This fight will look like Gatti-DeLaHoya: a game challenger, but in the end, underweight and overmatched.

No deep analysis needed here, both are good fighters,
but a good big man always . . .

The play:
Oscar -170

Wagering advice:
If you are in Vegas, or can get action down in Sin City, wait on this one and make your bet Saturday afternoon. Pacquiao fight betting patterns are always the same. He has a rabid fan base, and Las Vegas has a very large Filipino population. If you?re betting on him, bet early. If you?re betting against him ? wait.

The opening odds of 2-1 have already come down, and will continue to do so right up until just before fight time Saturday night, when last minute smart money/wise-guy dough moves in to take advantage of the lowered odds on Oscar.

If you?re betting on-line and can get less than -190, don?t wait too long; it?ll be gone by Saturday afternoon.

And if you like Pacman ? call me. I?ll book ya . . .

excellent sonny...glad to hear you agree....maybe now i can shitcan the morphine drip and go with a couple swigs of laudanum....

so many solid people are buying into the manny hype that i was starting to develop a nervous twitch...

i didn`t get it... until it dawned on me that this happens to some extent in most big fights...the roy jones/calzaghe fight most recently...

i don`t usually mess with my money mgmt gameplan.....but,i`ve deviated from my usual frugal ways for this one....this is the 3rd time in recent memory(floyd/hatton and joe/rjj).......

if oscar does the unthinkable and gets scuppered by manny,i`ll be at the closest intersection with a squeegee and a bucket of dirty water the very next morning....

but,i just don`t see it happening...if manny pwns dlh,then anything is possible(you could probably convince me that frankie kidnapped the lindbergh baby).......

gl to us....:mj09:

and don`t be a stranger...
 

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I had the most terrible dream.
Oscar battered Pac from pillar to post for 3 rounds but could not finish him. He ended up running out of gas in the fourth :scared :scared :scared

I hate dreams like this as I am a bit psychic.
I once had a dream that I was married to a fat, ugly wife.
When I woke up, the dream had come true!!!!!
 

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self deprecating humor is the best kind paulie. that shit had me keeled over laughing.
 

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I had the most terrible dream.
Oscar battered Pac from pillar to post for 3 rounds but could not finish him. He ended up running out of gas in the fourth :scared :scared :scared

I hate dreams like this as I am a bit psychic.
I once had a dream that I was married to a fat, ugly wife.
When I woke up, the dream had come true!!!!!

:rimshot :lol:
 

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Geez

That was sad listening to Mosley speak

He was slurring a lot....that Margarito fight is looking dangerous...

:(
 

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For those of you that dont want to pay then you can always catch it free on justin.tv in the sports section.
 

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I had the most terrible dream.
Oscar battered Pac from pillar to post for 3 rounds but could not finish him. He ended up running out of gas in the fourth :scared :scared :scared

I hate dreams like this as I am a bit psychic.
I once had a dream that I was married to a fat, ugly wife.
When I woke up, the dream had come true!!!!!

I gather your wife doesn't spend time at Madjacks. That would be a tough one to explain.
 

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to those that watched: did hoya move and act comfortably at 145? i read casually on some forum that he was sweating heavily and riding a bike before the weigh-in. that doesn't make much sense. maybe its a mind game or a media hype (they're only 3 lbs apart!), otherwise its just odd.
 
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