He is right FDC. You are incapable of reason even when presented with facts if it does not fit your belief or bias. Cmon man! Admit you are wrong just one time?
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He is right FDC. You are incapable of reason even when presented with facts if it does not fit your belief or bias. Cmon man! Admit you are wrong just one time?
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It's "Hope this helps" not hope this help nor hope for should. How hard is it to copy and fucking paste? You're a fucking neanderthal Raymond.
Have you ever been camping in a state park? Do you clean up after yourself or just leave your shit laying everywhere when you leave?
Do you piss in a public pool or would you want to go into a public pool you knew that everyone pisses in?
Steel companies are asked to clean up after themselves just like you should have been taught to do as a child. When the industry failed to do so time and again and had little regard for their own filth they had to be regulated. Please show all of us the legislation put in place by President Obama this article's source references.
To a further point, steel production has become far more robotic. Fifty thousand jobs wouldn't be a tenth of what had already been lost. Also steel production plants are generally located on large bodies of water that border large cities. Large cities that share the water table. How many Republican senators do you figure will commit political suicide by repealing long standing legislation governing the clean up of industrial waste in the water table and gray water after what is still going on in Flint?
I'd be willing to bet that none of what this article is alleging will ever happen. Trump will not be able to lessen epa standards on water quality and there won't be any jobs, but you don't give a shit about any of that do you?
The fact is Ray, you don't give a fuck if this is true or not, it's useful to you, at least you think so, so you parrot it.
I couldn't be happier about you and hedge consistently and completely unwittingly proving my point.
Hope this helps,
FDC
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So she's an indicted and convicted criminal?
No,...........no she's not is she?
Prove me wrong and I'll admit I'm wrong. The problem is you can't, why don't you go ahead and admit that first? I mean you're the one speaking down to me as if I've NEVER EVER admitted being wrong, and that's completely untrue isn't it Jaxx? I've done exactly that a number of times in the past, even in this thread, when have you?
Tell me about the time you admitted to being wrong, ever?!
Like I said, prove me wrong. Show me a conviction, not a story. Show me facts, not supposition.
How do you excuse Trump and his history? How do you excuse your actions in the past of complaining about taxes and the "redistribution of wealth to social programs" yet not a peep about how your tax dollars will soon be going to pay the supposed billionaire president's mortgage on his hotel so his immigrant wife and children from previous wives can stay there, and all that tax money, your tax dollars, spent on his security knowing full well that all those tax dollars you spent before...........he never paid a cent of?
How do you reconcile yourself to exercising the FACT that he plundered a veterans charity and fake university? Or when he publicly lied about an entire religion of people.
I'd say you have a helluva lot more to come to terms with than I do.
Hope this helps,
FDC
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You mean since the election?
If so are you attributing that to the election of Trump?
Let me ask you this, isn't there just as much circumstance to link it to next year's budget approval and subsequent signature by President Obama? I would hazard to say that your 401k has grown in the last 8 years as well.
While I'm sure there are plenty that will make the same distinction there isn't really any nexus whatsoever between the two.
The economy is fine and growing, just as it has been for almost 8
Besides, he may get us all killed by China in the next year just because he can't control himself on twitter.
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Is that right? That's your response or just what popped up on auto correct when you tried to figure out how to post hope this helps?
If you think I have issues than I'm definitely doing something right.
Hope this helps,
FDC
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https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2016/12/08/united-states-steel-restore-jobs/%3Fsource%3Ddam?client=ms-android-verizon
Trump doing work.
I do believe his twitter acct needs to be disabled for 4 years, though
Trump doing work.
I do believe his twitter acct needs to be disabled for 4 years, though
That was my point 20 pages ago.... The media was spreading fear about the stock market. Trump is not going to destroy the market, doesn't matter who is in office. I wasn't exactly thrilled with Obama, but I certainly did not bash the guy either! He did some good things as I expect Trump to do as well. They need to cancel his tweeter account
I'm curious as to how you see this as "Trump doing work"?
The article surmises that Trump will somehow institute immediate changes to long standing EPA regulations governing industrial waste and water quality standards. First of all, how is that even remotely considered a positive? Maybe Trump can create 100,000 new jobs in the mining of coal by relaxing child labor laws? How, exactly, will Trump do this? Will he somehow have Super Trump powers to amend laws without going through proper legislative channels? How many more children need to be poisoned by the tainted water in Flint before it would raise true concern by republicans and Trump as it relates to environment?
Yeah, I'm really curious as to how this article relates to Trump doing anything positive for the citizens of our country?
In the past couple of weeks I've seen Trump celebrate publicly and falsely claim victory for saving 1000 jobs at Carrier when all he did was offer the big business a$7 mill tax relief that he wasn't legally able to do. It only took two days for the actual truth to come out and both corporate and union leaders said he, Trump, blatantly lied about his claims. Trump then went on through a series of tweets to publicly blame the union president for losing the jobs he falsely claimed as saved. The union president has since had to relocate his family and get security because of all the death threats he's receiving, all due strictly to the president- elect's lies. This is where we can actually measure the results of "Trump doing work" because he so gladly accepted credit for it when it was still useful to him.
Just days later it was announced in an interview with the CEO of the company in charge of building the Dakota pipeline that he bribed Trump in the form of campaign contributions to push through the remaining permits required to forego one of the oldest treatises this country has and go through Souix nation sacred ground. Ground that the U.S government doesn't even own. So confident is the CEO that Trump will break the law and the covenant of the treaty that he ignored the refusal of permits by President Obama and is continuing to build the pipeline illegally without regard for the laws of the land or the citizens inhabiting it. Another shining example of "Trump doing work"?
Then there's the threat to international relations with China and the subsequent bitch slap received from China after Trump ignored long standing US-Indo-China policy by soliciting a phone call from newly elected Tiawanese president. To make matters worse, Trump once again took to twitter to feed his ego and claimed the U.S. is selling billions in weapons to Taiwan but he "can't take a phone call". Shortly after that the Tiawanese president issued a statement saying Trump was once again lying about his involvement and the Chinese government is going to file a formal complaint in the U.N.
So these things all actually happened, except for the steel industry bringing back 10,000 jobs because of Trump, that hasn't happened. Why don't we measure his "doing work" results from the actual results of Trump's "work"?
Hope this helps,
FDC
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Was it really the media spreading fear about a market collapse due to Trump Steve? Was it really the media that attributed a small surge in the market to his election? Are you sure it was just the media?
It just seems to me like his detractors feared the worst and his supporters credited him with the best while neither truly applied. "My 401k looks pretty good lately" doesn't really sound the same as "it doesn't matter who's in office, it won't affect the market" to me.
I am an Obama fan and his presidency has been hugely successful in my opinion. So far from Trump, I've see only guffaws, international tension, and a tsunami of deceit and narcissism. I am openly criticizing Trump and rightly so, in my opinion. I don't have the same faith as you do that Trump will do some good things.
I do not recall a time when you bashed Obama for no reason or anything of that nature.
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I wonder if it gives anyone else pause to know the president elect will soon have the country's nuclear codes, yet he cannot control his actions on twitter even though all his closest advisors have begged him to use discretion.
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FDC, I'm not sure I follow why anyone is upset he took the call from their president?
The thing is, most of us have not bashed Obama, this is not about that. The people just did not want Hillary and another Clinton 4 years. Yet, you have done nothing but bash, bash, bash the President elect and you give not one iota of credit to him at all. Not one. You will not live through the next 4 years if you continue this hatred and blatant anger at something that really is out of your control. But as you said, if you can just change one person, you will feel good about it. Change to what though? Your way of thinking? Again, just following on what I said to you before that you need to chill out once in awhile or you will be six feet under.
Just imagine that if Hillary had won and the Democrats had control of both the house and senate???
I bet their would be no problem with jamming liberal policies down the throats of MIllions of Americans who were opposed to it. (OBAMACARE COMES TO MIND)
Wasn't it Barry himself who said elections have consequences?
As long as he has a pen and a phone, right?
Again I revert to my Butt Sore comment earlier in this thread.
Gonna be a long 8 years for some folks.
I bet their would be no problem with jamming liberal policies down the throats of MIllions of Americans who were opposed to it. (OBAMACARE COMES TO MIND)
Wasn't it Barry himself who said elections have consequences?
As long as he has a pen and a phone, right?
Again I revert to my Butt Sore comment earlier in this thread.
Gonna be a long 8 years for some folks.
