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FDC, I'm not sure I follow why anyone is upset he took the call from their president?
Because of an existing policy between China and the U.S. that recognizes Taiwan as a "province" of China and therefore doesn't recognize the Tiawanese president as such. Any communication with him strains an already tenuous relationship with China. Which is why China sent such a stern response and will file a complaint with the U.N.

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Just imagine that if Hillary had won and the Democrats had control of both the house and senate???
I bet their would be no problem with jamming liberal policies down the throats of MIllions of Americans who were opposed to it. (OBAMACARE COMES TO MIND)
Wasn't it Barry himself who said elections have consequences?
As long as he has a pen and a phone, right?
Again I revert to my Butt Sore comment earlier in this thread.
Gonna be a long 8 years for some folks.
You're just regurgitating the same nonsense and bullshit you said in your other idiotic posts.


Have you ever thought about dealing in facts rather than speculation? What if this, what if that, well what if you had actual sense? Neither are realistic.

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Because of an existing policy between China and the U.S. that recognizes Taiwan as a "province" of China and therefore doesn't recognize the Tiawanese president as such. Any communication with him strains an already tenuous relationship with China. Which is why China sent such a stern response and will file a complaint with the U.N.

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Would you kindly give us solid reference to the treaty and or policy posting and its terms that you are quoting with authority?

That would be helpful....
 

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Trump won- rather handily!
You can whine and cry about every move he makes for the next 4 years (probably 8) but it it isn't gonna change a thing.
That's the fact!
 

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So far from Trump, I've see only guffaws, international tension, and a tsunami of deceit and narcissism.

Just as you say with Clinton- allegations and opinions, nothing factual there. As you state, your opinion.

Which, impressively, you happen to be the only person in the history of mankind to have never been wrong about anything. It's pretty fucking amazing, congratulations on that.
 

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FDC, you still haven't answered the question I posed that I am most interested in. You said you disagreed with most choices for Cabinet positions, yet you didn't answer who your top 3 or 4 (you said there were better choices, for instance with Education). I would love to see who you would have and why they will do better than said appointment as they get placed. Thanks.
 

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Just as you say with Clinton- allegations and opinions, nothing factual there. As you state, your opinion.

Which, impressively, you happen to be the only person in the history of mankind to have never been wrong about anything. It's pretty fucking amazing, congratulations on that.

This is why I just had to stop going back and forth, I would always be wrong, or incorrect, or snooty, or unintelligent or something else, which I may be a few times. And he truly thinks he is never that way. Not once. Never.
 

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The thing is, most of us have not bashed Obama, this is not about that. The people just did not want Hillary and another Clinton 4 years. Yet, you have done nothing but bash, bash, bash the President elect and you give not one iota of credit to him at all. Not one. You will not live through the next 4 years if you continue this hatred and blatant anger at something that really is out of your control. But as you said, if you can just change one person, you will feel good about it. Change to what though? Your way of thinking? Again, just following on what I said to you before that you need to chill out once in awhile or you will be six feet under.

Chuck,
You don't represent the "people" nor does Trump's election reflect what "the people" want. He lost the popular vote by the largest margin in history by a winning candidate. He got less than 46% of the voting population which was the smallest voter turnout in history if you look at percentage by census. That's not indicative of what "the people" want by any stretch. Hillary lost because of the smear campaign engineered by the GOP that was funded by misappropriated tax revenues.

What exactly should I give him credit for? What had he done except lie over and over again that he's deserving of praise?

I said that it is my nature to defend the causes in attached to our believe in. If something I say or post ultimately reaches an open ear then I'm good with it. I'm not trying to change the world nor get everyone to think like me. That's unrealistic and not at all what I meant.

I will say that I don't post the things I do with certain individuals in mind unless it's a direct response to their post. It seems to me as if you're under the impression that I'm addressing you or that I have you in mind when I post. I assure you, I don't.


I'm not spewing anger and hatred all the time either. I do when people say stupid shit like climate change is a hoax and such.


I'm not sure how you keep insisting that the "people" want this or that as if you are speaking for the majority or that you have your finger on the pulse of the collective population, you don't.

For some reason you keep preaching to me about how I need to act. I'm not sure why you feel empowered to do so bit it is what it is.


Hope this helps,
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Trump won- rather handily!
You can whine and cry about every move he makes for the next 4 years (probably 8) but it it isn't gonna change a thing.
That's the fact!
Shb,
I'm not going to get into it with you when you have no regard for facts.

He lost the popular vote by more than 2.6 million votes.

You'll now reference the electoral college and say how nobody cares about the popular vote blah blah blah. What you won't do is recognize that the redistricting done by the GOP of several swing states prior to this election that won him those swing states has been found unconstitutional and those states are now ordered to put it back to a true representational map and that has to be done prior to the mid- term elections.

Any argument with you would be a waste of my time unless you suddenly decided to deal in reality.

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Chuck,
You don't represent the "people" nor does Trump's election reflect what "the people" want. He lost the popular vote by the largest margin in history by a winning candidate. He got less than 46% of the voting population which was the smallest voter turnout in history if you look at percentage by census. That's not indicative of what "the people" want by any stretch. Hillary lost because of the smear campaign engineered by the GOP that was funded by misappropriated tax revenues.

What exactly should I give him credit for? What had he done except lie over and over again that he's deserving of praise?

I said that it is my nature to defend the causes in attached to our believe in. If something I say or post ultimately reaches an open ear then I'm good with it. I'm not trying to change the world nor get everyone to think like me. That's unrealistic and not at all what I meant.

I will say that I don't post the things I do with certain individuals in mind unless it's a direct response to their post. It seems to me as if you're under the impression that I'm addressing you or that I have you in mind when I post. I assure you, I don't.


I'm not spewing anger and hatred all the time either. I do when people say stupid shit like climate change is a hoax and such.


I'm not sure how you keep insisting that the "people" want this or that as if you are speaking for the majority or that you have your finger on the pulse of the collective population, you don't.

For some reason you keep preaching to me about how I need to act. I'm not sure why you feel empowered to do so bit it is what it is.


Hope this helps,
FDC



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The people I am referring to is pretty logical to most. The correct people in the individual states that voted had enough say as a collective group to win the Electoral Vote. Those are the rules they both had to play by. The number of people in each state that Trump needed to give him the electoral votes he needed, SPOKE! Is that clear enough? Here is a real life example in my world.

In my world of selling, there are groups of hospitals that form an Integrated Delivery Network together to get better pricing, purchase the same Medical instruments, and demand the same attention. They are in every state. I deal in a similar world as the Electoral College. If there are 11 hospitals that are deciding on an instrument, my job is to get the Director and VP level at each individual hospital to say they want my instrument. That means the rural 30 bed hospital has the same vote as the 300 bed hospital. If you get 6 of the 11 pushing for you, the contract will be yours. That way, every town counts, similar to every state. And you know where some "Managers" may have more pull helping others choose your instruments, so you focus there as well, i.e. in the election, those "hospitals" were Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, etc..

Donald Trump had the "right" people in his court to win the election. Hillary didn't. He was more intelligent in where he campaigned. GOP Smear was not the reason.

Can I reference the people I meant, now? Without your semantics of what people I meant? I have to start the grill. :0067
 

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FDC is so engulfed in his Liberal ideology that he doesn't get that through all of these long winded rambling posts he just looks and sounds like a sore loser, over and over.
Trump won the only vote that matters. Period.
#hesyourprestoo get over it, it's killing you on the inside!
Don't be alarmed everything will be ok, we made it through 8 years of Barack Houssein Obama.
I'm sure the next 8 will be much better for most folks.
 
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Just as you say with Clinton- allegations and opinions, nothing factual there. As you state, your opinion.

Which, impressively, you happen to be the only person in the history of mankind to have never been wrong about anything. It's pretty fucking amazing, congratulations on that.
So the Carrier deal in which the CEO and Union president made public statements claiming that Trump's account of saving 1000 jobs was an outright lie is speculation?

The bitch slap from the foreign ministry of China is made up?

The President of Mexico saying that Mexico would never and had never agreed to pay for the wall and that Trump is delusional when he, Trump, tweeted that they did indeed agree to for the bill after his impromptu visit to Mexico.


The statement that he won the popular vote if you didn't count the millions of illegal immigrants committing voter fraud on his Twitter feed didn't really happen huh?


This is exactly what I'm talking about. All that I just mentioned is fairly common knowledge. It isn't like it's not been in the news.

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So the Carrier deal in which the CEO and Union president made public statements claiming that Trump's account of saving 1000 jobs was an outright lie is speculation?

The bitch slap from the foreign ministry of China is made up?

The President of Mexico saying that Mexico would never and had never agreed to pay for the wall and that Trump is delusional when he, Trump, tweeted that they did indeed agree to for the bill after his impromptu visit to Mexico.


The statement that he won the popular vote if you didn't count the millions of illegal immigrants committing voter fraud on his Twitter feed didn't really happen huh?


This is exactly what I'm talking about. All that I just mentioned is fairly common knowledge. It isn't like it's not been in the news.

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So of the 1100 jobs trump claimed to have saved 300 were Admin jobs that were never leaving. So he "only" saved 800 jobs. But let's not focus on that right? How do you think those 800 fucking people feel? Yes he exaggerated but he saved 800 not 1100!jobs. And you are whining about it. Amazing
 

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So of the 1100 jobs trump claimed to have saved 300 were Admin jobs that were never leaving. So he "only" saved 800 jobs. But let's not focus on that right? How do you think those 800 fucking people feel? Yes he exaggerated but he saved 800 not 1100!jobs. And you are whining about it. Amazing

Also this comment "Hillary lost because of the smear campaign engineered by the GOP that was funded by misappropriated tax revenues". Also amazing.

Even the liberal pundits have gone into detail about factors involved in her loss. And for fucks sake. Had she never created the illegal server then the FBI wouldn't have had a chance to reopen the investigation. Smear campaign. Ha. Caused by her own poor choices and actions.
 
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