RAYMOND and fletcher go "PAY"

[Evil Genius]

GL you guys. While I have only been a short while, I've piggybacked you both several times and usually won.

To everyone who is bitchin', it's called capitalism. Someone provides a service, if you want that service, you pay for it. If not you don't pay for it. Pretty simple stuff. If they're good at it, more people will pay for it than those that don't.

 

[baby johnson]

gl to you two.......hope you make lotz of money.

LONG LIVE VOLFAN..everyones new "KING"

 

[fletcher]

well there's another lie not fact because dave kept the tracking chart from day 1 OF PAY SERVICE and over all was 58.7 up 35.8 units hear me again that was the pay picks from the start so don't say they went to shit 18-3 in bowl games 28-17 in nfl 62.2%

college hoops +18.5 units 56.2% say what you want all work was by dave and you looked at that page everyday so don't say the plays sucked you hit almost 60% on nba,ncaa hoops,nfl and ncaa fb with over 260 plays then tell me they sucked i will take that anydayi have the print out from dave right in my hand,the last one on feb 24 so you are calling him a lier also,funny i would think 58.7 isnot shit and like i said dave ran it all so ask him infact i already did at your post over there.

have your storys stright thats why we lost 6 guys in only 5 months because they were losing money and had over 88 till the end that were there each month,you don't know what went on so don't act like you do.

 

[Red Raider]

I hope they don't give us 'HUGE, VERY BIG. LOCK AND LOAD' etc...and on their site its the opposite etc...

Loser,

You obviously don't know these guys very well. Both of these guys are stand up! They don't and won't pull that chit!

You guys ought to calm down. Flecther has had a pay service for a long time now, and yet he's been posting plays consistantly! Knowing him, and I do, He'll continue this and they won't be chit plays. They'll be some of the same plays he gives out on his other site.

Then again, he could just get tired of putting up with all the bullchit and leave all together, that's something he'll decide. I for one wouldn't blame him.

Just realize that these 2 guys have been helping all of us out, taking time to post, etc... and both would go out of their way to help you personally if the need ever arised. Thats just the way they are.

Before anyone, responds and calls me a kiss ass, save your time! I don't really give a crap what you think. I just know the type of guy Eric is, and its wrong for people who don't know him to start mouthing off. It perfectly fine if your disappointed and go ahead and post as much, but leave any personal assults out.

Good luck to you both!

 

[chump]

good luck guys

good luck guys

wish you both the best, hope you keep posting here on occasion

when does this start, April 1?

when will you stop posting here?

what is up "whitey" ? is that really jim rome's boy?? that's hilarious if its true. Romey really rips on gambling

hope you both do well for your customers

 

[TBoyrent]

Fletch&Ray thanks for all the fun last couple of years,wish you all the best in your business.Hope to see ya'll around the forum once in a while.GLTYa

 

[TIME TO MAKE $$$]

Good luck to both of you on your new business venture.

Drop by and say hi once in awhile.



Best of luck

 

[coasttoocoast]

Madjack is a hippocrit!!!!!

Madjack is a hippocrit!!!!!

im an asshole

 

[Code Red]

It's all about the money dude!

It's all about the money dude!

It's a money grab, nothing more.

Someone posted earlier that it's the American way what these two are doing. Gotta agree there. But isn't the right to express dissent and air your own opinion also the American way? And isn't that kinda what a message board is for?

I dunno.

Personally I never really coat-tailed either because I have faith in my own capping but honestly, it seems to me that there are other cappers here who do as well if not better than they do. I also think that anyone would be stupid to pay for their services. Don't mean to offend but hey, that's just the way I feel. It's hard enough to make a profit gambling, without paying out for someone elses picks that can lose just as easily as yours can. Be smart people, don't pay for others' picks!

 

[the_fix_is_on]

I was going to wait 'til April 1st to post this but...

I was going to wait 'til April 1st to post this but...

here it is anyway. I found this with a bunch of old picture postcards. Amazing!!!!<br><br><IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/rodeodrive/6892/Fletcher.JPG">
<br>
Seriously. Good luck in your new venture. I'll be the first, or maybe the third of fourth to say that you guys have helped me in my short time visiting this site. If you need any locks, just fade my picks.
<br><h3>GO TERPS!!!</h3>

 

[ZMAN]

ray,fletcher: good luck and thanks for all you've done for this site.

ZMAN

 

[A1Capper]

college hoops 56.2%

Lets take a look at 56%.

Assume I was paying a service. And let's also assume that through the course of the basketball season, I recieved, let's say, 50 plays from this service.

56% hit rate, on these 50 games, means the service hit 28 games, and missed 22.

If I were betting, for an even number, $100 per game, I would have won $2800, and lost $2420 (including the juice). Netting me,
$380.

50 plays from a pay service would have cost hundreds,if not thousands, of dollars, wiping out my $380, and more than likely pushing me into the hole.

In summary, If one can win at a 56% rate on their own, they will make money. But 56% to a pay sevice will most often end in a net loss. If you are out to make money, why wouldn't one use free information gathering sites such as this one, as opposed to paying their own profits for someone else to do it? Especially if the best they can boast is a 56% winning rate?

Good luck to both of you, and believe me there are many a bettors that will bring you good fortune.

 

[Billy Barooooooo]

Fletch, hope your picks are better this time around. Didn't you just try this a few months ago? You were colder than a witches tit!:moon:

LMFAO


BB

 

[nyraider]

RAY, FLETCHER!!!

GOOD LUCK


THESE GUYS ARE PISSED, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PROFIT OFF YOU GUYS'???? THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU!!!
DAN

 

[RAZ]

Good Luck,

Agree w/Thunder and others. Appreciate the effort and insight over my time here.

Best Wishes
Raz

 

[sparky38]

MY TWO CENTS

MY TWO CENTS

Havent posted here much ,but have followed all picks on here but make my own plays when its time to call the man .. Any one following people like this arent thinking correctly ... If there pics are that solid why would they need any of this ...they would be millionaires...No way would anyone lay concrete unless they need ed cash ..Just study a little and get some great imfo from these sights from some educated cappers ..And try to manage yourself dont bet everyday .. everygame .. or because there on TV.. Good luck ray and fletch .. Alls i got is 2 cents what can i get for that ? Nothing but my opinion :shrug:

 

[5H4RKY]

Inevitable wasn't it?

 

[taipans]

I never wanted to get invloved with topics like this but I was always offended by this whole pay service endeavor. I was, and still am under the assumption that we are all here to share info, insight and opinions that we can all benefit and profit from. Iam not saying that what they did is wrong but maybe they should tone it down a bit on madjacks.
Iam also convinced that some poters in the forum get hit with the right and they beg for the left. Check Crack Rat and Jiminicrickets earlier replies in this thread.

 

[skulldog]

Good luck Ray and fletcher, this is the land of opportunity and if people are willing to pay for your picks then more power to you.

A1, excellent write up, but not every bet is equal i would look more to the +or- units, just MO.


gl

 

[fatdaddycool]

good bye and good luck