UFC 125:RESOLUTION - JAN 1st
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if someone can show me a 10-7 round in mma(short of a point deduction),please do.....i doubt you`ll find many...you have to be practical...
this was a championship,but most mma fights are 3 rounds...you give one 10-7 round and you basically decide the fight..., i would think 10-8 is about the max...where do draw the line?...why not a 10-6 round...
a 2 point round in a 3/5 round fight is about about all you can do without making it almost impossible for the other fighter(short of a stoppage)...unless you just junk the 10 point must system and go with the pride rules(where judges just judge the fight as a whole)... lord,they can`t get the 10 point must right in many instances...
we all have different opinions ,but to possibly win 3 out of 5 rounds and lose a championship because of one bad round seems a tad punitive,imo...
it`s easier in boxing because knockdowns are scored definitively...and there are more rounds...
and what a f-cking bust grispi turned out to be...i was ready to throw down a large straight bet at around -255....and decided to go with some smaller pars based on an old fight tape that showed some real flaws in the dude`s game..
still caused me to have a losing night...grispi had virtually no stand-up and was bullied around the ring like he had absolutely no idea what to do on his feet or on the mat....he wasn`t so much stunned by a big shot and forced to man up and survive like edgar....he was just covering up because it looked like he had no clue how to respond....
can`t imagine what would have happened had he fought aldo...
this was a championship,but most mma fights are 3 rounds...you give one 10-7 round and you basically decide the fight..., i would think 10-8 is about the max...where do draw the line?...why not a 10-6 round...
a 2 point round in a 3/5 round fight is about about all you can do without making it almost impossible for the other fighter(short of a stoppage)...unless you just junk the 10 point must system and go with the pride rules(where judges just judge the fight as a whole)... lord,they can`t get the 10 point must right in many instances...
we all have different opinions ,but to possibly win 3 out of 5 rounds and lose a championship because of one bad round seems a tad punitive,imo...
it`s easier in boxing because knockdowns are scored definitively...and there are more rounds...
and what a f-cking bust grispi turned out to be...i was ready to throw down a large straight bet at around -255....and decided to go with some smaller pars based on an old fight tape that showed some real flaws in the dude`s game..
still caused me to have a losing night...grispi had virtually no stand-up and was bullied around the ring like he had absolutely no idea what to do on his feet or on the mat....he wasn`t so much stunned by a big shot and forced to man up and survive like edgar....he was just covering up because it looked like he had no clue how to respond....
can`t imagine what would have happened had he fought aldo...
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and the mma media is just as lame as the judging...i keep reding that the final 4 rounds were "closely contested"...i thought 3 of the final 4 were fairly clear cut rounds....2&4 for edgar...3 for maynard...
of course,it`s easier to be lazy in your reporting...
of course,it`s easier to be lazy in your reporting...
The only reason 10-7 rounds seem like a death sentence is because guys are pretty much guaranteed 9 points just for showing up. This scale makes no sense if we only use 3 scores of a 10 point scale. Just have a 3 point scale. If you used the scale and were liberal with 10-8 and 10-7 rounds as needed, we would be closer to getting back to the Pride system because the end score would be more indicative of what happened. A complete overhaul is needed.
The 10 point must system (as used today) allows for lazy judging too. Decide who wins the round and give them 10. Whoever loses, give them 9. That's ridiculous because it doesn't tell the story of the fight. They should call it "Rounding" not Fighting, because it is about winning rounds, not fights.
i think if you start throwing around 10-7 rounds,the whole thing turns into a circus....
imo,mma judging needs more structure...not less...you give these judges a blank check as far as points are concerned,you up the probability for even more corruption...and head-scratching decisions..
the fact that these are 3 and 5 round fights should limit the leeway that judges have in scoring a fight...
2 point rounds should be reserved for the most one sided of rounds....imo...
btw...that may be the first time i`ve ever used "leeway" here at madjack`s...:em71: :lol:
I don't think there has ever been a 10-7 round in MMA (without deductions) and there in lies the problem for me.
Frankie was decked hard multiple time's and had no legs, while taking mass punishment for about 3 solid minutes. I'm surprised the fight wasn't stopped when Edgar was staggering all over the place.
That is as close to being stopped as you can come so I think 10-7 is warranted. A guy can grab someones shorts twice and it's a 10-7 round but a complete slaughter doesn't justify 3 points????
Why have a 10 point system if you don't use it???
I have already expressed my opinion on what I think judging should be. Who won the fuking fight, not who stole a couple of rounds.
Who would I rather have been at the end of the fight??? It sure as Fuck wasn't Edgar, THAT tells me who truly won. :shrug:
Edgar is a beast with a few less braincells today.
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i was doin coke, smoking crack then i went to the meth lab
and cooked me up some concoction so i passed out before the ufc started
i have to catch a replay
STOCKTON WHAT
DON'T BE SCARED OF PURE STRIKING HOMIES
everybody sees it differently...i thought that maynard pretty much fell asleep after the first...i actually put a wager in on him right before the fight started at 5 dimes(-147 reduced)....and i honestly thought i deserved to lose...
i hear you,brother...just don`t trust these refs with blank check to score crazy point differentials in short fights...
i think they need to be reined in by more strict point-structure guidelines...lsomewhat like boxing...
but hell,the judging in boxing sucks ,too...:142smilie
BTW, wtf was Vera doing in the 3rd round? I liked his standup, and thought he was really getting some nice kicks and strikes in on Silva. However, when he went to the ground, it was like he just gave up and didn't even try.
Just watched the fights this morning
Edgar/ Maynard was a war. Many MMA fans were complaining of the vent before it took place but man did these two deliver:0008 What a great fight
I had it a draw on my scorecard
Stann has some power
Was surprised that Silva was able to take down and control Vera so easy. The difference is strenght and power was huge
Loved the Diaz/ Stungun fight. A good grappling contest.
Sengoku/ Dream and UFC 125 = not good betting events for ukgaz:facepalm:
Edgar/ Maynard was a war. Many MMA fans were complaining of the vent before it took place but man did these two deliver:0008 What a great fight
I had it a draw on my scorecard
Stann has some power
Was surprised that Silva was able to take down and control Vera so easy. The difference is strenght and power was huge
Loved the Diaz/ Stungun fight. A good grappling contest.
Sengoku/ Dream and UFC 125 = not good betting events for ukgaz:facepalm:
i flubbed the dub by putting too much emphasis on one fighter...
you have good instincts and add alot to the forum,u.k....i bet you win and win comfortably over the long haul...
Thanks GW. Yep this game is about the long haul which alot of people forget. The year was good for me but if I take anything negative from it to learn from, it will be to not set a unit target for 2011 like I did in 2010. As the end of the year approached I took plays to reach that target that I probably should not have done and as a result over extended myself
Still a good year. Hope everyone did well and remember this sport is the best:0074
I had Edgar-Maynard a draw and expect Edgar to win the 3rd fight between them. All and all he was more impressive.
I don't have much to say. Wasn't upset with the draw at all but the scoring of the judges shows that you just can't leave it in their hands if you want to win. I'm happy I didn't lose after the first. I told one of my friends in between rounds 1 and 2 that I hoped Maynard didn't Carwin himself because it looked like he might have. In all reality I think he did. These guys see blood, the adrenline kicks in and they blow their wad so to speak. Too tight, not enough breathing and punching when they should just be controlling. I'll still be big on Maynard in the III fight. I really think that first round screwed him in the end. He was really lucky to have enough to make it 5 full after what he did in the first.
