UFC 99:FRANKLIN vs. SILVA

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

I agree 100%. What made Silva great was his recovery time when he got cracked. Now he has NO recovery time as he now go's to sleep.

Franklin has never had a chin of steel so no bet for me.

I think Velasquez is going to punish Kongo and I loved his opening odds of +140.
I don't like -200 anywhere near as much.

Hope you have fun at the event :mj06:

Soooo, he gets KO'd by Rampage and has no recovery time all the sudden? We soon forget about his loss to Chuck where I'd say 98% of the fighters on the UFC's roster would've been KO'd at some point. We forget about the Henderson and Cro Cop fights where he was able to take several punches as well.

Lets not become all knee jerkish! I've warned you guys in the past about this, only going to cost you money.

 

[weepaul]

He was knocked cold by Rampage, Mirko and Hendo. These were all rematches against fighters he had beat.
This tells me his punch resistance is gone.

I know you love the guy but he is no longer the killer from yesteryear.

I love Sakuraba but I need to live with the fact that his prime was years ago.

Good luck.

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

He was knocked cold by Rampage, Mirko and Hendo. These were all rematches against fighters he had beat.
This tells me his punch resistance is gone.

I know you love the guy but he is no longer the killer from yesteryear.

I love Sakuraba but I need to live with the fact that his prime was years ago.

Good luck.

Ok, and when Rampage was KO'd 2x cold flush by Wandy??? - Lets hear the poured on excuses, because why can't they be still used?

What about Rich being KO'd on his feet against Anderson 2x? Is he gone too?

Like I said, and I've said it from day one, you guys on here tend to have kneejerk reactions to fights, and it'll only cost you.

He got KO'd by Hendo midway into the 3rd round and halfway through the 1st round by Cro Cop, it's not like he just danced around the ring then got KO'd. There were punches exchanged and landed. You make it seem like if he gets punched, he's done. Which is total clueless, but I'm not shocked the least bit. But because he lost to rematches, that means his "punch resistance"(what the fuck? btw) is gone? God forbid any great fighter ever lose a rematch or he's done.

You boxing guys should stick to boxing. Look at the last "official tracker" where I posted my plays and I mopped the floor. I know what I'm talking about, have been, and always will.

 

[kickserv]

bucs.....rowdy....and weinerdog are all related:mj07:


hmmmmmmmmmm:shrug:

 

[THE_THONG]

seriously PAULIE MALIGNAGGI with 12oz gloves can

KO wanderlei

wanderlei's chin = china

 

[MayorgaFan]

Franklin should take Silva apart reelatively easy. At this point of each guys career Franklin is just the better technical and more skilled fighter. not to mention Silva's chin is history. RETIRE SILVA:director:

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

bucs.....rowdy....and weinerdog are all related:mj07:


hmmmmmmmmmm:shrug:

Hardly, it just annoys me when people just completely ignore one side of the facts because of their opinion or play. My thoughts have absolutely NOTHING to do with ODDS, you guys all know that(right KICKSERV?). I simply try to break the fights down fighter vs fighter. I think if you just think of the fights and break them down as fighter A vs fighter B and ignore the odds factor to begin with, you'll have a more clear mind of who you think will/can win. I tried the whole odds thing and it just messes with my judgement.

I also don't make stupid gurantees like that clown weinerdog does. The only thing rowdyrider and I have in common is a love for Shogun, but Shogun is 2nd to Wandy, of course.

I'm sorry if I continuously rub people the wrong way, but it's just who I am. Guys like keygray and night janitor know me best and how I am, and they got my back!!! --I THINK?? LOL :mj07:

 

[kegray1]

I'm sorry if I continuously rub people the wrong way, but it's just who I am. Guys like keygray and night janitor know me best and how I am, and they got my back!!! --I THINK?? LOL :mj07:

Always.

Weinerdog is never going to get my attention for the simple fact he guaranteed a 13-11 Phil Baroni.:nono: Makes me think he doesn't watch alot of MMA to promise that guy is going to win for you.

Just keep speaking mind without insulting people and you will always be heard from whether they agree with you or not.
Weinerdog is catching so much heat because of "Cash It" plays in a sport that is probably the hardest to say that.

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

Always.

Weinerdog is never going to get my attention for the simple fact he guaranteed a 13-11 Phil Baroni.:nono: Makes me think he doesn't watch alot of MMA to promise that guy is going to win for you.

Just keep speaking mind without insulting people and you will always be heard from whether they agree with you or not.
Weinerdog is catching so much heat because of "Cash It" plays in a sport that is probably the hardest to say that.

Yeah, I saw that when I chimed back in. Never smart to make guarntees, unless it's WANDY or SHOGUN!! I would've actually thought NO BALONI BARONI would've fought better, and that fight was extremely boring compared to both fighters hyping each other.

I've missed alot on here lately, but I did chime in for a quick minute when SHOGUN KO'd Chuck. You should dig up that thread lol

 

[The Sponge]

Always.

Weinerdog is never going to get my attention for the simple fact he guaranteed a 13-11 Phil Baroni.:nono: Makes me think he doesn't watch alot of MMA to promise that guy is going to win for you.

Just keep speaking mind without insulting people and you will always be heard from whether they agree with you or not.
Weinerdog is catching so much heat because of "Cash It" plays in a sport that is probably the hardest to say that.

Well in Baroni's defense he looked great. :mj07: :mj07:

 

[layinwood]

Bucs, you act like you're the only one that picks winners.

Nobody has said Wandy has no chance, I think most everyone knows that he's dangerous. But you have to know that something isn't the same with him these days. What it is I don't know. Did the Crocop kick give him a concussion that makes it easier for him to get more concussions now, possibly? Was he on steroids and now can't be and thus it's affecting him, possibly? For you to say nothing has changed and he's still the same guy isn't seeing things with clear glasses on.

Wandy is one of my top 3 fav fighters but I think this is a bad spot for him. Yeah he looked good vs Chuck but I'm not sure if that says anything after the way Chuck has looked lately. I'll be honest, it has me worried about Shogun. Do we really know anything more about Shogun being back just because he beat Chuck(and yes i was big on Shogun so don't say you told anyone so on that one)

 

[nj]

I'm sorry if I continuously rub people the wrong way, but it's just who I am. Guys like keygray and night janitor know me best and how I am, and they got my back!!! --I THINK?? LOL :mj07:

You got it bro.

Sometimes you tip-toe the line, like when you just said "You boxing guys should stick to boxing". Weepaul has always been a class act and was doing great before the official tracker. But I think there's no malice, you're just passionate and impulsive.

You definitely know this game, and I owe you more than a few drinks for all the winners you've brought me :mj06: Your emotional tone on a gambling forum, which is typically more reasoned and neutral, makes you stand out I think.

In fairness, your opinion can be skewed when talking about Shogun or Wandy, but we all have that - kickserv and GSP, or me and Juan Manuel Marquez and Pacquiao, for instance.

Anyway, glad to see you posting again :toast:

 

[gardenweasel]

You got it bro.

Sometimes you tip-toe the line, like when you just said "You boxing guys should stick to boxing". Weepaul has always been a class act and was doing great before the official tracker. But I think there's no malice, you're just passionate and impulsive.

You definitely know this game, and I owe you more than a few drinks for all the winners you've brought me :mj06: Your emotional tone on a gambling forum, which is typically more reasoned and neutral, makes you stand out I think.

In fairness, your opinion can be skewed when talking about Shogun or Wandy, but we all have that - kickserv and GSP, or me and Juan Manuel Marquez and Pacquiao, for instance.

Anyway, glad to see you posting again :toast:

this place will get old quickly when guys can`t take a little shinkick and disagree on issues without taking personal offense.....it`s not personal.....

i think that`s why i`m fond of weinerdog....:00x25 :lol:

 

[layinwood]

this place will get old quickly when guys can`t take a little shinkick and disagree on issues without taking personal offense.....it`s not personal.....

i think that`s why i`m fond of weinerdog....:00x25 :lol:

I agree GW. One thing I'll say about weiner is he opened his mouth but he came back after taking the most abuse I've ever seen.

You know it wouldn't be as much fun if we all agreed on everything. I LOVE debating with people, I don't like when people resort to name calling.

 

[Ghost Kid]

Did you guys see the UFC 99 Countdown show they ran on SPIKE?
You can pretty much guarantee Silva vs. Silva if Wandy wins on Saturday.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/6/11/905742/the-ufc-wants-to-promote-wanderlei

 

[kegray1]

i think that`s why i`m fond of weinerdog....:00x25 :lol:

Everyone should be fond of weinerdog. He is spitting out winners left and right. He is just always on the wrong side of them, but you don't have to be.:142smilie

Just messes with you Weinderdog.
Can you please give me the UFC 99 list of square plays. I seemed to have lost mine after Franklin.

 

[The Sponge]

Everyone should be fond of weinerdog. He is spitting out winners left and right. He is just always on the wrong side of them, but you don't have to be.:142smilie

Just messes with you Weinderdog.
Can you please give me the UFC 99 list of square plays. I seemed to have lost mine after Franklin.

He ought to go tout. Heck if i knew a guy who was wrong 100 percent of the time i would buy his system with no hesitation. Hope i didn't give him any ideas.

 

[Coach_K]

Did you guys see the UFC 99 Countdown show they ran on SPIKE?
You can pretty much guarantee Silva vs. Silva if Wandy wins on Saturday.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/6/11/905742/the-ufc-wants-to-promote-wanderlei

I saw a portion of this and it was a lot about Spider. Sucks for Maia and Marquardt. Seems like Spider is booked (Forrest, Wandy and/or GSP) Spider should be fighting this weekend and then he will get on same schedule as Wandy. Its not like he took any beating in his last fight. I actually am not as excited as most to see Spider vs GSP, but would really like to see Spider/Marquardt again. Dont get me wrong I would pay for the Spider/GSP fight any day and think it should happen for the fans but Spider has a few challengers now and so does GSP (ie Fitch)

Anyway, they say if Wandy wins he will fight Spider, I could see him Fighting Spider even if he loses.

 

[The Sponge]

Did you guys see the UFC 99 Countdown show they ran on SPIKE?
You can pretty much guarantee Silva vs. Silva if Wandy wins on Saturday.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/6/11/905742/the-ufc-wants-to-promote-wanderlei

What happen to the Bisping?Hendo winner getting the shot at the title:shrug:

 

[layinwood]

Talk about a bad matchup for Wandy. I know he's been talking about wanting to fight Anderson but I can't see it at this stage of his career.

The fight I want to see is Anderson vs Machida. In my eyes that fight would be as technical as it gets. I think Anderson would have the best or at least as good as anyone at beating Machida.

I think GSP needs to fight someone else in the MW division before he gets Anderson. Anderson is having to fight Forrest, he's not getting to go up to the top dog in the LHW division. GSP should get someone like Rich(I would say Nate but we know they won't fight), heck give him Wandy that would make for some exciting promotions.