michigan's new coach
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Martin has got to be getting creamed by former players and donors on this one...i've received three different "chain letters" this week alone from pissed of Michigan folks who want you to sign and send to the althetic department regarding Miles.
Crazy!
I really feel badly for Michigan if they hire that clown...
by the way Greg Davis is still available. An offensive genius like him would do wonders with a guy like Mallett.
by the way Greg Davis is still available. An offensive genius like him would do wonders with a guy like Mallett.
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Les Miles on the Dan Patrick show, I'd say this is pretty telling of his position:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071207/SPORTS06/71207028/0/SPORTS06&theme=CARR
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071207/SPORTS06/71207028/0/SPORTS06&theme=CARR
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For several reasons, including his poor in-game decisions and the fact I don't want a guy at LSU that was "cornered" into an extension, I'm still hoping that Miles will go. Although, I must admit that I am concerned about the effect on the recruiting class (which is not where I would like it to begin with), plus there appear to be fewer and fewer viable candidates.
I'm now anti-Spurrier, and it doesn't seem like Petrino would be jumping back to college after only 1 season in the ATL. There is no way they wait until Jax to loses in the playoffs for DelRio, plus I am now leaning against him any based on his lack of college experience.
All I know is that if Miles goes to Michigan, they will be getting exactly what they deserve
How can this guy have so many people in BR and Ann Arbor completely snowed:shrug:
Miles had a phone conference with Michigan's President and AD today. Miles and Michigan both were to "air out the laundry".
No word yet on how it went or where this will head from here.
No word yet on how it went or where this will head from here.
Because he's had the best three year run in LSU history and is coaching for the National Title? :shrug:
Don't get me wrong Cie, this is no Jimmy Johnson we're talking about, but no one has ever done better at LSU. Kind of hard to claim he's a dunce at this point in time.
He is playing with Saban's players:shrug:
LA is a gold mine for talent and LSU does not have much competition with other state schools for the in state talent, such as Bama-Auburn, the Florida schools, Clemson-SC, etc.
LA is a gold mine for talent and LSU does not have much competition with other state schools for the in state talent, such as Bama-Auburn, the Florida schools, Clemson-SC, etc.
This team is 80% Les Miles' players, and he lost almost an entire recruiting class when Saban left. Yes, he left him some good talent. But he also left him a big hole in his roster when he bolted for Miami.
Les is not the best coach around by any means, but he recruits well, he motivates well, and he hires great assistants. That's good enough for me. I can think of a whole list of guys I'd rather have, but none of them are willing to leave for Michigan right now. Les still is if Michigan will just offer a reasonable amount and assure him that he doesn't have to worry about Lloyd screwing with him.
Well, Michigan would NEVER hire him then, since they don't do anything unethical or unscrupulous......
Does Miles have an NCAA file? Has he ever been involved in any kind of extra benefits or recruiting scandal?
Dude may not be Mother Theresa on the recruiting trail, but he's not Zook or Carroll or Tressel either.
Dude may not be Mother Theresa on the recruiting trail, but he's not Zook or Carroll or Tressel either.
Recruiting is dirty by mature, and, of course, everyone has a different definition of dirty.....there's dirty vis a vis the ncaa rules.....thens there dirty, like fibbing about a kids potential to start and negative recruiting against a school......I refuse to get into a spitting war w/ anyone's fan base about who does more or less of the former.....but I can say that everyone is guilty of the later each and every time they hit the recruiting trail!!!
As far as Les, I know the Lloyd Carr camp up in Ann Arbor are miffed at him because of something he did on the recruiting trail.....most seem to think it has something to do with the Jai Eguene recruitment.....a lot of others seems to think it has something to do with possible negative recruiting tactics on behalf of Les perhaps even spreading a rumor that lloyd is ill maybe w/ Parkinsons's......I dont know if any of it is true, but that seems to be the conventional wisdon of any ill will between the two on the recruiting trail.
So, Les and Martin are back to talking.....interesting......how could Lloyd possibly get in the way, wont he be in Australia watching his buddy Russell Crowe's rugby team?
I like Les for two reasons. He would bring a different, fiery attitude that has been missing for several years. And, he would turn around our S/C program, telling our boys this is how its done and won in the SEC.....thats what stands out most w/ Zooker's team.....they are a SEC team playing in the Big 10 w/ their strength and speed.....Les would transform things up here to a certain degree.
That said, there are a lot of other people whose attitude would be a big time breath of fresh air in Ann Arbor.....and, our S/C is so behind the times a lot of people would be able to upgrade that big time as well....the whole SEC attitude is an intangible.
So, I've never been in the Les or Bust camp. When I think of him, I think of him losing a 21-point halftime lead vs Texas in 2004 as his team gave up 42 unanswered points in the second half....me and buddies joke about the game all the time....Sun, you probably remember that game as well.
As far as Les, I know the Lloyd Carr camp up in Ann Arbor are miffed at him because of something he did on the recruiting trail.....most seem to think it has something to do with the Jai Eguene recruitment.....a lot of others seems to think it has something to do with possible negative recruiting tactics on behalf of Les perhaps even spreading a rumor that lloyd is ill maybe w/ Parkinsons's......I dont know if any of it is true, but that seems to be the conventional wisdon of any ill will between the two on the recruiting trail.
So, Les and Martin are back to talking.....interesting......how could Lloyd possibly get in the way, wont he be in Australia watching his buddy Russell Crowe's rugby team?
I like Les for two reasons. He would bring a different, fiery attitude that has been missing for several years. And, he would turn around our S/C program, telling our boys this is how its done and won in the SEC.....thats what stands out most w/ Zooker's team.....they are a SEC team playing in the Big 10 w/ their strength and speed.....Les would transform things up here to a certain degree.
That said, there are a lot of other people whose attitude would be a big time breath of fresh air in Ann Arbor.....and, our S/C is so behind the times a lot of people would be able to upgrade that big time as well....the whole SEC attitude is an intangible.
So, I've never been in the Les or Bust camp. When I think of him, I think of him losing a 21-point halftime lead vs Texas in 2004 as his team gave up 42 unanswered points in the second half....me and buddies joke about the game all the time....Sun, you probably remember that game as well.
Any updates?
More importantly, whats your take/insight on prospective NFL candidates.....i ask only because you mentioned Lewis and there have been rumors all day being lobbed around regarding Shanahan and especially Sean Peyton.
Are we really looking at those guys, i.e. Peyton? How would you rate their interest in bringing in a NFL guy......to me, I would be kinda surprised by that move, but then again this whole process has been one big surprise after another.
Also, I wonder if the university is coming away from its "must have previous head coaching experience." I hope they do not as UM is not the place for on the job training. Nevertheless, if you do enough internet trolling you unearth the wildest rumors.....including one about Steve Sarkisian.
Please note, I am just passing along rumors. Just spent the last hour surfing the net incessantly and came across that in a message board.
I don't understand how there can be a difference between the way strength and speed are taught in the SEC as opposed to the Big 10? I understand that Michigan's S&C may be behind the times, but you mean to tell me that Zook's S&C is far superior to anyone else's in the B10 just because he coached in the SEC? I find that hard to believe. Maybe Zook has just recruited superior athletes who have more potential for being stronger and faster....
I think you're taking my words a little too literally.....Illinois plays like an up and coming SEC team, at least as I see it.....and I would like Michigan to play the same way, perhaps thats an intangible element that Miles could bring......just like if a hot Pac 10 coach was being considered, my thought would be, well maybe he can bring in a little Pac 10 offensive acumen our way.....i think the S/C comments i made are just mixed into that, so I was not all that clear....i dont think there's difference per se between leagues and schools, except that UM is clearly behind the times.....any new coach cant help but upgrade that.....so I was trying to make two thoughts, one specifically on S/C, which anybody from anywhere can improve....the other generally about Miles bringing some of that SEC mentatility that I think is clearly in play with how the Zooker has gotten his talented Illini to play like....of course, any SEC coach could bring that element, so lets just go hire Urban Meyer!
I think you're taking my words a little too literally.....Illinois plays like an up and coming SEC team, at least as I see it.....and I would like Michigan to play the same way, perhaps thats an intangible element that Miles could bring......just like if a hot Pac 10 coach was being considered, my thought would be, well maybe he can bring in a little Pac 10 offensive acumen our way.....i think the S/C comments i made are just mixed into that, so I was not all that clear....i dont think there's difference per se between leagues and schools, except that UM is clearly behind the times.....any new coach cant help but upgrade that.....so I was trying to make two thoughts, one specifically on S/C, which anybody from anywhere can improve....the other generally about Miles bringing some of that SEC mentatility that I think is clearly in play with how the Zooker has gotten his talented Illini to play like....of course, any SEC coach could bring that element, so lets just go hire Urban Meyer!
TP, I think what you are trying to say in a round
about way is, the northern schools (Big Ten and
Nebraska in particular), have since day one played
smashmouth running game football due to the
weather conditions come late October and the
month of November. Years ago they have come
to realize that speed and the passing game, (west
coast offense), are passing them by and they need
to adapt and not tomorrow but yesterday. Illinois
is no fluke. They brought in Zook for that very
reason. Nebraska brought in Callahan for that very
reason. It will be an adjustment period for these
schools because you just can't switch gears over
night, but all these programs are realizing that to
keep up with the Florida's and USC's and Sooner's
your going to have to bring in a new mentality.
Lloyd Carr vs Urban Meyer, :142smilie :142smilie
i know cwood & others have close connections to the michigan program & i have no info other than what i have been reading...but i am making my prediction who the next coach of michigan will be...brian kelly...
my opinion is based on this paragraph in a lenn robbins article, who covers college sports in the ny post & was writing about schiano turning down the michigan offer...
Michigan might reach out to another Big East coach. Sources told The Post that Cincinnati coach Brian Kelly is figuring more and more into Michigan's thoughts as athletic director Bill Martin stumbles through his search. LSU's Les Miles and Schiano have elected to stay put and, although Martin doesn't have Kelly high on his list, former Michigan coach Lloyd Carr does.
and when everything is said & done this will turn out to be a great hire for michigan...
my opinion is based on this paragraph in a lenn robbins article, who covers college sports in the ny post & was writing about schiano turning down the michigan offer...
Michigan might reach out to another Big East coach. Sources told The Post that Cincinnati coach Brian Kelly is figuring more and more into Michigan's thoughts as athletic director Bill Martin stumbles through his search. LSU's Les Miles and Schiano have elected to stay put and, although Martin doesn't have Kelly high on his list, former Michigan coach Lloyd Carr does.
and when everything is said & done this will turn out to be a great hire for michigan...
