after reading/hearing about how miles has acted, i wouldn't hire him under any circumstances if i were michigan. after all we are not talking about bryant or lombardi & a case could be made that he should have done better at lsu & won a few more trophies. michigan should move on w/o miles...
michigan's new coach
- Thread starter DR STRANGELOVE
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Right now, he's making them look desperate and pathetic If the admin over there has any balls, they'll move on.
Of course whomever they hire now if it isnt Miles looks like the 12th choice.
This may sound odd considering my comments on Miles, but what little respect I have for him is gone if he doesnt take that job. Good grief it's your alma mater, a big time program, good money, your dream, he would be absolutely ZERO without the University of Michigan. He HAS to take that job.
yeah..we're not talking about a mickey mouse school..we're talking about one of most storied football programs in the country...they shouldn't have to compromise their position for a coach..
Sounds like Michigan would be getting a real stand-up guy if Miles eventually takes the job........:142smilie
I can hear the BS that he would be slinging out on the recruiting trail.....
He has a nice job now imo, and in the opinion of a majority of the free world. The problem is, he probably doesn't deserve the job he has, but that's just me.
I dont dispute any of that. But only one place is home....and it isnt like its some willie nillie school. Though I guess they dont have much choice, I cant believe LSU is accepting this BS. LSU is acting like this guy is Lombardi. Good grief the MJ's board could have a two loss team with that talent.
I will say this though, whether he stays or goes he better win alot because he wont be getting another job.
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LSU admin is as bad Mich admin. How can they let Petrino slip to Arky?? What a freakin' disaster this has turned out for LSU. Now they will be STUCK with a 3 million buffoon at HC, while Petrino is going to Arky today. How can a top level SEC job be held by the 6th or 7th best HC in the conference(and for the 2nd highest salary):shrug:
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LSU is not the only one who thinks this guy is Lombardi. Trust me, most of my fellow Michigan fans feel this guy should be the one and only guy at Michigan. They say he is the perfect candidate. There are many people you cant even have a conversation about this topic because they cant see past Miles. Some have the thought that NOT hiring Miles would set the program back years.
Good grief, give me a break. There are so many great coaches who would rock and roll at UM thats its silly to focus on just one guy. Right now, if they dont get Miles at least half the fan base will automatically hate the new coach, and there will be plenty of big time donors, ex players, alums who will openly decry the move.
Petrino? Please give me a break hes useless and also a quitter. hell i would take Crowton over him anyday..
Miles started as an assistant @ Michigan under Bo Schembechler in 1980 and 1981. He was also an assistant at Michigan from 1987 to 1994... 10 years already spent coaching Michigan!
This is the exact same thing as Roy Williams in 2003 when North Carolina came calling and he had to lie to the media so his team wouldn't be affected. I would say 95% chance he's gone after this season.
I wouldn't consider Miles a 2nd tier coach... he's done well @ Oklahoma State and LSU, but he'll still have Michigan finishing behind Ohio State and Tressel every year.
This is the exact same thing as Roy Williams in 2003 when North Carolina came calling and he had to lie to the media so his team wouldn't be affected. I would say 95% chance he's gone after this season.
I wouldn't consider Miles a 2nd tier coach... he's done well @ Oklahoma State and LSU, but he'll still have Michigan finishing behind Ohio State and Tressel every year.
The specualtion is getting old.
Nobody believes Miles. Given his own history at Okie State and many many other coaches in this same spot, statements from him will not be taken at face value.
Why is Michigan so quiet on this matter? Meaning, if he was not their guy and are moving on, they sort of "owe" it to an alum to make a public announcement saying something to that effect and that they're moving on. That way Miles would be free of this situation. And concentrate on winning the BCS title game.
As it stands, Miles can deny all he wants, but the media will not believe him and continue to pester him until it finanlly resolved. I know I dont believe him, but I dont believe any coach in these situations. Shoot, on Nov. 26 Petrino said he wasn't interested in any other job.
Maybe Michigan will publicly cast a wide net for their Plan B candidates, as CWood labelled them, and maybe thats the subterfuge they're running to keep heat off Miles while at least doing due diligence on a host of others in the event LSU draws a line in the sand that Miles decides he cant cross or all the "non truth" telling gets to him and refuses to do it any more and tells UM no.
Lets say Miles is leaving. Why is it so bad to just announce it and let the BCS game be his last one. I know, I know, there's recruiting and stuff.....but the dead period for that is basically upon us. And, is Miles really that key to recruiting for LSU.....at this point, cant LSU, as a school, just say to recruits, hey we've played for a 2 national titles and won three league titles in 7 seasons under two different coaches. Come play for us and whomever the coach is you will be playing for glory.
I just dont think LSU is that bad of a position even if Miles said today that he is leaving.
Nobody believes Miles. Given his own history at Okie State and many many other coaches in this same spot, statements from him will not be taken at face value.
Why is Michigan so quiet on this matter? Meaning, if he was not their guy and are moving on, they sort of "owe" it to an alum to make a public announcement saying something to that effect and that they're moving on. That way Miles would be free of this situation. And concentrate on winning the BCS title game.
As it stands, Miles can deny all he wants, but the media will not believe him and continue to pester him until it finanlly resolved. I know I dont believe him, but I dont believe any coach in these situations. Shoot, on Nov. 26 Petrino said he wasn't interested in any other job.
Maybe Michigan will publicly cast a wide net for their Plan B candidates, as CWood labelled them, and maybe thats the subterfuge they're running to keep heat off Miles while at least doing due diligence on a host of others in the event LSU draws a line in the sand that Miles decides he cant cross or all the "non truth" telling gets to him and refuses to do it any more and tells UM no.
Lets say Miles is leaving. Why is it so bad to just announce it and let the BCS game be his last one. I know, I know, there's recruiting and stuff.....but the dead period for that is basically upon us. And, is Miles really that key to recruiting for LSU.....at this point, cant LSU, as a school, just say to recruits, hey we've played for a 2 national titles and won three league titles in 7 seasons under two different coaches. Come play for us and whomever the coach is you will be playing for glory.
I just dont think LSU is that bad of a position even if Miles said today that he is leaving.
I am aware of 2 recruits, one on the OL which is a big hole on the roster, which will definitely not sign w/ LSU if Miles leaves. I say no big deal to the loss of a couple of recruits, but not if the next HC candidate is an unproven coordinator, which would likely be the case.
Bobby Petrino is lost to Arky based on Miles' claims this week that Michigan should move on with their search. Until then, Petrino appeared to be waiting in the wings until 1/8/07.
If it turns out as we all suspect, that Miles' recent proclamation was simply an effort to call off the dogs until after the BCS title game, then it will be a disaster for LSU because of the lack of available candidates so late in the game.
SEC West: Arky upgrades HC, Ole Miss upgrades HC, Auburn upgrades OC. LSU picks upa bottom-feeder HC despite making it to the Nat'l title game. :com:
Cie, good insight on that OL recruit....UM's OL sucks....so maybe....ha ha ha.
Anyway, I understand your worries, for sure, especially w/ the other West upgrades......but thats why it would be in everyone's best interest to just announce it now.....LSU could give the line I proposed to recruits, while looking for a HC.....maybe they see the writing on the wall and are behind the scenes doing something, who knows.....but if they really expect Miles to be there and he is being tightlipped afraid of being "Freidered" then he is doing them a huge disservice as far as finding the next coach.
I just dont think it would a huge deal or even all that distracting if Miles just said, 'yeah, I'm going to UM." He could focus on winning one more game at LSU, the school could tell the recruits, hey we're still great, look at our record, and all the while get into the coaching derby.
I really do think Michigan's silence in all of this is pretty telling.
Would Crowton be a legit option as full time HC.
Then again, maybe all this is a waste of time. Maybe Miles was being truthful yesterday!?!?!
On a scale of 1 to 10, I give that a 5 that Miles was telling the truth.....would you go higher or lower w/ that number.....I say 5, which means I just never know to believe a coach or not in that spot.....we've seen that lip service before.
