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I've seen a lot of sick things. When I was 12, I walked out in the garage on a Sunday morning and found my father's dead body. I've seen a home video of a guy getting eaten alive by lions as his little kids watched. I've seen the press conference of that government worker from PA that shot himself in the head on live television.

But this.... this was by far the sickest thing I've ever seen in my entire life. I really wish I hadn't watched that.
 

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Sad I feal so sorry for this guy family. I Cant understand why they have to die for false reasons. Were going to defeat terror by invading Iraq. What BS. Just think what 200 billion could have done here at home really getting things in order to protect us. Just the jobs alone it would have created. Instead we lost all these men and woman soldiers. And other contracted workers. And it we wont be any safer then the day this war started. Dam could we have done so much more for our country. And why the hell did we not complete are first goal. Bin in Afgan. I dont understand why folks cant understand the real terroist were not in Iraq to start with. Just so Sad. You want to nuke some joint so dam bad. You should have taken out Afgan.


djv- for the life of me I can't understand your constant whining. I wonder if you could tell me the difference between the Viet Nam protestors chanting "Baby Killer," etc. and the way you act? To top it off you were in the soldiers shoes at that time.
Not that you don't have the right to your opinion, but you might as well be yelling fire in a crowded theatre. WE KNOW ABOUT THE $ SPENT. Its water under the bridge. I guess you'd be able to handle things differently w/out any mistakes- thats the way you act. You think ppl get on you because you won't k*ss Bush's *ss? WRONG! It's because you're like the back seat driver that constantly complains and makes the situation even more difficult. Sorry for the rant, but I thought at least you'd change your tune at a time like this.
F*ck It- Also hope our neighbors to the south feel proud about chanting "Osama" @ the American Soccer team. (Mexico won't send Cop Killers back to the USA because they think Life in Prison is Cruel & Inhumane punishment.) This isn't meant for the decent Mexicanos, but for the 'Patriotic Catholics' who were yelling. :cursin:
 
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This is more proof that AQ IS IN IRAQ. If it isn't i dont know what is... But as the liberals say, "we shouldnt be there in the first place" or there is "no justification". This makes me furious! During times like these you need to quit looking through your Democratic glasses and look through your AMERICAN ones:mad:
 

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To liberals, everygoddamnthing is just another excuse to harangue the president and malign the republic majority of this country. The liberals hate our country, and they jack off to these types of videos, it's the greatest thing in the world to them to American hurt, mained, and especially killed. Where is the universal condemantion of this event? They love the dengration and humiliation that it shows. It's sweet extacy to them. God I hate ****tard liberal cocksuckers.
Islam is a form of fascism, where the religious leader have total control of society, and if you want to earn a living, you have to follow thier dictates. Their holy book is a piece of crap, written by a blind man who did nothing but instigate war everywhere he went, and the modern version is as belicose and as agressive as possible. It is an anti-human reliogion, which doesn't value life or humanity or rights or any of the things we in America hold dear. It has aspirations to take over the entire world, prefferably by force, but any means will do. Arabs and islamists are sick, digusting people, who have no manners or civility at all. The types of brutality seen in this video are expected and common-place in the Arab world. The opposing branches of Islam have been killing each other off for over a thousand years, and their society is currently in the grips of a dark-age worse then the one that befell Europe. Islam is the worlds number one problem, and always will be. They are terrorists who have no regard for life and feel as if though anyone who isn't part of their little mosque is a dirty swine who deserves to die. Until all Americans get hip to the shit spewing from the mouths of the Arab world, we'll have to put up with their shit forever.
The US Army is testing out various methods of combat, but soon enough, caret bombing of Fallujah and other terrorist enclaves will ensue, and those ****heads will get whats coming to them.
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"I am eagerly awaiting public apologies and condemnation from leaders in the Arab world expressing their own personal outrage at the barbaric murder of Nick Berg, an innocent civilian," Representative Tom Tancredo of Colorado said.

"And if such an apology is not forthcoming from the Arab world, their silence should be condemned by the civilised world."

This being a betting site, what odds do you lay that nary a single Arab scumbag proffers an apology as profuse as they would demand from the US???
 
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Tenzing said:
To liberals, everygoddamnthing is just another excuse to harangue the president and malign the republic majority of this country. The liberals hate our country, and they jack off to these types of videos, it's the greatest thing in the world to them to American hurt, mained, and especially killed. Where is the universal condemantion of this event? They love the dengration and humiliation that it shows. It's sweet extacy to them. God I hate ****tard liberal cocksuckers.
Islam is a form of fascism, where the religious leader have total control of society, and if you want to earn a living, you have to follow thier dictates. Their holy book is a piece of crap, written by a blind man who did nothing but instigate war everywhere he went, and the modern version is as belicose and as agressive as possible. It is an anti-human reliogion, which doesn't value life or humanity or rights or any of the things we in America hold dear. It has aspirations to take over the entire world, prefferably by force, but any means will do. Arabs and islamists are sick, digusting people, who have no manners or civility at all. The types of brutality seen in this video are expected and common-place in the Arab world. The opposing branches of Islam have been killing each other off for over a thousand years, and their society is currently in the grips of a dark-age worse then the one that befell Europe. Islam is the worlds number one problem, and always will be. They are terrorists who have no regard for life and feel as if though anyone who isn't part of their little mosque is a dirty swine who deserves to die. Until all Americans get hip to the shit spewing from the mouths of the Arab world, we'll have to put up with their shit forever.
The US Army is testing out various methods of combat, but soon enough, caret bombing of Fallujah and other terrorist enclaves will ensue, and those ****heads will get whats coming to them.
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"I am eagerly awaiting public apologies and condemnation from leaders in the Arab world expressing their own personal outrage at the barbaric murder of Nick Berg, an innocent civilian," Representative Tom Tancredo of Colorado said.

"And if such an apology is not forthcoming from the Arab world, their silence should be condemned by the civilised world."

This being a betting site, what odds do you lay that nary a single Arab scumbag proffers an apology as profuse as they would demand from the US???

Can someone let Dr. Freeze know he logged in under the wrong name again?
 

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instaed of trying to act like an arrogant condescending prick, what exactly do you disagree with than from this guy's posts?
 

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Wilson:

I did not know that about Black Jack but I think it is the ONLY approach these cockroaches understand.

G-Weasel,

We should release Saddam and allow him to reform his Republican Guard, provide him with new weapons and give the shit-pit back to him with our blessings.
 

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Chanman your pissed at me because this guy dies fro a false reason. Shame on you. your mad at the wrong folks.
Do you understand we, WE had this guy in jail for 13/14 days for reason not knowen. Not the enemy. Then they released him and he fell into the enemys hands. More to come out on this im sure.
We have not got complete story.
Why Chanman did we not finish out first goal? Then take the next step if even needed.
DTB you playing with numbers so I will to.
Clinton niether one of us like him to much. However under Clinton. American workers went up over $7000 in salary gains in 7 years. Under Bush in last 3 years they have gone down over $1000. And were still missing over 3 millon jobs.
 

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Gentlemen:

I did not, nor will I watch this video. It is quite interesting though how visually seeing the horrors of war inflames some of you. Lets nuke "them", treat "them" equally, etc. I guess I'm having a little trouble just figuring out who "them" is anyway.

This kinda stuff really is a flashback for me to Viet Nam. I remember how public sentiment about the war degraded to a point that we really didn't know who we were fighting. I mean there was the Viet Cong and the North Viet Nam regular army.

I'm getting that same feeling about whats going on in Iraq. To set the record straight for my right wing buds, I believe those responsible for 9-11 as well as the murderers of this American civilian should be caught and tried in the international arena before the world.

I further believe that the "coalition" soldiers as well as their superiors who either actually or tacitly condoned the prisoner abuses should similarly be identified and tried in the international arena before the world.

Someone brought up an interesting and very accurate point earlier on in this thread. We are dealing with two cultures here who view the world very differently. The eastern culture, I guess, chops off hands for stealing and has other forms of punishment for crimes which we find, at best, unusual here in the west.

Similarly, someone else mentioned, that the anticipated punishment, if any, the "coalitiion" soldiers and their superiors will receive, will likewise, not be understood by the east. Which one is right? I guess it depends on who you ask.

Which kind of brings me to my point. Here we are, invading the east and are appalled when they do not subscribe to our values and way of life. You see boys and girls, this is a war that you right wingers wanted. Well, you got it.

Many of you want to argue that the western crime doesn't fit the "eastern" crime. That is, I read comments like ".... so we took off there cloths and made them lie naked together." You know, once again, I think we are talking different cultures here.

I do not pretend to understand fundamental islam no more than I understand fundamental christianity other than to know that neither one is very good. I feel horrible for this guys family. I feel horrible for the families of the 9-11 victims.

I likewise feel horrible for the dead Iraqis both military and civilian. I feel horrible for the dead Americans and other coalition forces. I feel horrible for the dead Haliburton and other private contractors killed in Iraq. I feel horrible for Pat Tillmans family.

Like I said many times, I would gladly send my son to Canada to room with Dr. Strangelove and his girls than have him fight in this war, reasons for which continue to befuddle me. Also, I believe we should show some pictures of the 10,000 plus dead Iraqi men, women and children.

Let me ask you this, is there a difference between a hooded person, viewed by the west as a terrorist and an animal, slicing off the head of an American who is in his country and an unknown American launching a missle or some other such weapon which slices off the head of an Iraqi child who is viewed by the east as invaders who are attempting to change their culture and way of life. I don't think so.

Once again, my right wing friends, it is your war. Now you can live with the horrors of it. Why are we there? Where is bin laden? As you know, on some level, this is about oil.

Eddie
 

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I'm not mad@ you, I just do not understand you. As I said What is the difference between the Viet Nam protestors, or Hanoi Jane for that matter, and the way you act?



Only Strong American Military and Homefront Determination Wins War Against Terrorism
Congressman Mac Collins

For 22 years up until 2001, a lack of a U.S. response to terrorist actions, built up the terrorists strength and got the United States into the mess that we are in today.Weakness and appeasement in foreign policy brings nothing but trouble and anguish, not only to Americans, but to freedom loving people everywhere in the world. Terrorists take advantage of those who are weak.

In 1979, the Shah of Iran, a good friend of the United States, was overthrown by Islamic fanatics led by Ayatollah Khomeini. Their battle cry was and remains ?Death to America?. In November of that year, a militant Islamic mob took over our embassy in Tehran and held Americans hostage for 444 days.

Those hostages were released on January 20,1981.

In April,1983, 17 Americans died when a suicide bomber in a pickup truck loaded with explosives rammed into the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, Lebanon. Reagan administration officials at the time said the attack was carried out by Hezbollah operatives, an anti-American Lebanese militant Islamic group. Our government took no military response.

On the weekend of October 23, 1983, a suicide bomber detonated a truck full of explosives at the U.S. Marine barracks at Beirut?s International Airport. 242 Marines were killed in that attack and more than 100 others were wounded. Those Marines were part of a multinational force that was sent to Lebanon to separate the warring factions there.

Our government, again, took no military action.

On October 13, 1983, the Grenadian Army, controlled by former Deputy Prime Minister Bernard Coard, seized power in a bloody coup. The severity of the violence, coupled with Coard's hard-line Marxism, caused deep concern among neighboring Caribbean nations, as well as the United States. Also, the presence of nearly 1,000 American medical students in Grenada caused added concern.

In the early morning of October 25, 1983, the United States invaded the island of Grenada. By mid-December, U.S. combat forces went home and a pro-American government took power.

But, in December, 1983, the American embassy in Kuwait was bombed. Five Americans were killed.

Our government, again, took no military action.

On September 20, 1984, a truck bomb exploded at the U.S. Embassy Annex in Aukar,Lebanon, Northeast of Beirut. 24 people were killed, two of whom were American military personnel.

Again, our government took no military action.

In October, 1985, an Italian cruise ship, the ?Achille Lauro? was seized by four gunmen off the coast of Egypt. They were demanding the release of Palestinian prisoners in Egypt, Italy and other parts of the world. When their demands were not met, they threw 69-year-old Leon Klinghoffer, a disabled American tourist overboard, killing him.

This time, our government did take action. After the hijackers escaped the Achille Lauro and left Egypt by air, U.S. Navy fighter jets intercepted their plane and forced those hijackers to land in Italy where they were captured and later tried by an Italian court and imprisoned. One of the hijackers confessed to killing Klinghoffer.

Then on December 17, 1985, airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed. U.S. officials were able to link Libya to those bombings. The following January, America responded by sending the Navy and its warplanes to patrol the Gulf of Sidra.

Qadaffi decided to push the envelope further. U.S. Intelligence forces discovered that Libya was behind the bombing of a West Berlin discotheque, popular with off-duty American soldiers, killing one American serviceman, a Turkish woman and leaving 200 others wounded.

Retaliatory air strikes were ordered on Tripoli and Benghazi. One of Qadaffi?s residences was bombed. The French would not allow America to use its airspace for these air strikes.

A short time later, the bodies of three American University of Beirut employees were discovered near Beirut after authorities determined they had been shot to death. The Arab Revolutionary Cells, a pro-Libyan group of Palestinians affiliated with terrorist ?Abu Nadal?, claimed credit for the executions.

In December, 1988, a passenger jet, Pan Am Flight 103, was bombed by Muslim extremists over Lockerbie, Scotland. Our government did nothing.

On the morning of August 2, 1990, Iraq?s Saddam Hussein and units of the Iraqi Republican Guard invaded Kuwait and seized control of that country. That invasion triggered a United States response by our armed forces that became known as ?Operation Desert Storm.?

Iraq agreed to cease fire terms in March, 1991 and Kuwait?s legitimate government was restored.

In February, 1993, the World Trade Center in New York City was bombed by Muslim fanatics. Five people were killed and hundreds were injured. Our government did nothing.

In October, 1993, 18 American GI?s were killed in a firefight in Somalia. The body of one American was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu for the whole world to see. Somalians were cheering at the site of that dead American.

The U.S. responded by calling off the hunt for Mohammed Farrah Aidid, the leaders of the forces challenging both the United States and United Nations presence in that country. Our troops were also withdrawn from Somalia.

The terrorists actions continued???In November, 1995, five Americans were killed and several wounded when a car bomb set by Muslim extremists exploded in Saudi Arabia.

In June, 1996, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia was bombed. Our government did not take action. Later that same year, Saddam attacked Erbil, a Kurdish controlled city.

On August 7, 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim extremists. At least 252 people died, including 12 Americans, more than 5,000 were injured.

On August 20,1998, the United States launched missile strikes against training bases in Afghanistan used by groups allegedly affiliated with Osama bin Laden.

However, in 1999, a terrorist plot was foiled when a terrorist attempted to enter the United States from Canada armed with explosives at the British Columbia and Washington state border.

In October, 2000, the USS Cole was attacked by Muslim extremists and our government did nothing.

Before September 10, 2001, an estimated 800 Americans lost their lives because of terrorist attacks. On September 11, 3,000 Americans lost their lives because of terrorist attacks on New York and Washington.

President Bush has taken decisive action. He was the first president to take the war on terrorism to the terrorists. He struck in Afghanistan where the Taliban had given home base to al Qaeda for many years. Because the Taliban chose defiance, the Americans and the coalition acted there to remove the terrorists.

Now, Afghanistan is our partner in the war against terror.

The record is there. It shows that the mistake began when Iranians assaulted the U.S. embassy in Iran and met with no resistance. If we had responded it would have signaled the terrorists that the United States meant business.

It took a strong leader like President Bush to face up to the world as it really is and commit ourselves to destroying these terrorist organizations. President Bush is determined to continue this fight. I support him. His critics should realize when it comes to foreign policy, partisan politics should stop at the waters edge.

Al Qaeda planned a second wave of attacks on the heels of September 11 targeting the west coast. Those plans were aborted, because of President Bush's decisive crackdown on terrorist threats. The President declared his intent to snuff out those terrorist organizations that had declared war on us. His bold and decisive response demonstrated that America would not unwillingly stand by and wait for another attack.

Terrorists are being rounded up, regimes that harbor and sponsor them have been defeated, and states pursuing weapons of mass destruction are getting the message.

Now that we have a base of operations in Iraq, we can convincingly offer the leaders of the Middle East: a representative government.

Congressman Mac Collins, a Republican, represents the Eighth Congressional District in Georgia. He serves on the House Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Ways and Means Committee.

Respect your views Eddie, but you remind me of the priest in War of the Worlds-Gene Barry version- who runs out to talk to the attacking Aliens w/bible in hand only to get vaporized. Not trying to be funny. Just don't see how to reason w/these sick M*ther F*ckers... And the revulsion from the rest of the Arab world?
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i just heard that berg entered iraq from jordan was there on his own. he was trying to drum up business for himself.

a question that i have is why did he go into a country fighting a war without any backing ?

imo, he was asking for trouble.

of course am not justifying how he died, but why did he go there on his own.
 

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AR182 said:
i just heard that berg entered iraq from jordan was there on his own. he was trying to drum up business for himself.

a question that i have is why did he go into a country fighting a war without any backing ?

imo, he was asking for trouble.

of course am not justifying how he died, but why did he go there on his own.

yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I guess he was over there a while back doing some work(independently), then came home, then went back to look for more work. I don't get that.
 
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Gentlemen:

Once again, my right wing friends, it is your war. Now you can live with the horrors of it.

Eddie

Yes it is Eddie, so shut the fk up and stay out of it : Just like at a school yard fight you would be the little pussy hiding on the jungle jim crying for it to stop, I'm sure you remember your childhood well. A smartass little dick when he gets his head slapped goes crying to Mom:
Either get in the Game or sit on the sideline and shut your mouth.

Why won't you watch the video, will it Smack you in the FACE with what we are dealing with. Oh that's right You had NO problem looking at the ABUSE pictures and whining:

In Your words it's OUR WAR so zip that hole and let US fight OUR WAR!
 

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Hey Eddie how old are you????

Hey Eddie how old are you????

I thought you were probably somewhere in your 30's.

Yet you can remember the sentiment concerning the Viet Nam war. Unless you are at least late 40's ...you are full of sh*t.

Well what is it Eddie?? If in fact you are at least late 40's you have some basis for your statement. Otherwise fawk you.
 

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Pro:

What is it about my post that you disagree with? Is it not BushCo's war? Did he not invade Iraq because Hussein had weapons of mass destruction? Did he not choose to ignore the UN and the majority of the civilized countries on this planet with his war to then destroy the wmd and now to liberate the Iraqi people? Hey baby, you voted for this murderer, not me.

Other than relaying my childhood experiences in the playground of St. Paschals what is your point? Are you saying that only you (like the bully on the playground) and others in favor of this murderous debacle can comment? As has been shown, this pig of a human being in DC has been planning this murder well before 9-11. Lo and behold, he has thick-headed, numbskulls like you in full support.

I envy you seeing the world in black and white (excuse me, in your case, brown and white). It must be nice to be so simple minded, uneducated and driven by emotion instead of logic. Shall I call you Forest? I rarely say the f word here, but in your case I'm going to make an exception. You are one dumb mother f*****.

This guys head was cut off because your right wing, similarly thinking, follow-the-leader, butt-buddy minions in the military thought it would be funny to humiliate, embarress, ridicule, scorn, mock and possibly murder prisoners of Bushs' war. Yeah, thats pretty macho asswipe. Prisoners, being taunted and humiliated by your "heros" with automatic weapons kinda reminds me of what I imagine you were like on that playground back at Adolph Hitler Junior High in Madison, Wisconsin. Scum.

Continue to commit "YOUR" murder ass**** and because of your monumental stupidity, insecurity and need to pound your chest, normal, rationale, thinking Americans have to look forward to more Berg's and 9-11's. You see, you simple minded dolt, you are forcing your war on me. Innocents pay with their lives because of your kinds need to be the bully on the block.

RRC, you simply are a moron.

Nosigar, you scare me.

Eddie
 

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---and a little on the "more jobs issue"--as of 5-1-04 the U.S. had more people employed than "any time" in history of the U.S.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that percentage-wise? If not, of course there would be more people employed as our population increases.
 

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Wouldn't want to answer a simple question, right Ed??? Nah, it's quite apparent those of us who don't agree withh Ed are morons. No one could possibly be as smart as the all knowing Ed.

One suggestion...wanna see stupid, wanna see moronic look in the mirror.

Feel bad for ya Ed...that must have been one sad childhood. What was it like having no friends growing up because you were the one that always had to be right. Oh my mistake...I gave you credit for having grown up.
 
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