Do you have a gun in the home???

Captain Crunch

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One 40 caliber Glock with a 13 shot clip in the gun loaded with hollow points (none chambered) and one 13 shot clip next to it. Also have numerous shotguns and rifles that I do not keep loaded. No wife and one 13 year old daughter who knows nothing of the gun, and doubt she could ever find it.
 

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multiple. as i explained to the wife " i would rather die with it than without it" i have 3 children and no weapn is within their reach - unless one of my kids is superboy/girl....

different calibers,etc.

she can learn to deal with it.
 

taoist

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Chad,

This might sound indelicate, but hopefully also empathetic. Lawyers generally have a little more reason to fear for their lives than the average Joe.

:SIB


Amen, brother! LOL :mj07:

I completely agree - I'm one of those "crazy" people who think that the kind of energy you put out is the kind of energy you are going to attract - so I live with no fear and believe no harm will come to me... so far, so good...

But then again, I grew up in a house where we NEVER locked our doors - I mean, we went on two week vacations and didn't lock the doors. All of our cars were parked in the driveway with the keys in them. Never stolen, never robbed. :shrug:

...never locked my doors either. I have other protection...mostly by word of mouth. ;)

I think it's a regional thing.

...correct.

Here's my 2c on the topic. WTF do I need a gun for in my house? First off, the chances of someone breaking in are small. Second, most buglars of personal residences aren't going to be carrying a gun.

...uh, for protection. Small, but not as small as you would like when compared to winning the lottery or getting bitten by a shark or struck by lightning.... Secondly, great! I have the advantage right off the bat. ;)

I feel like the chances of something bad happening from having a loaded weapon in the house far outweigh the good. Let's see...kids can get a hold of it and blow their heads off, or someone elses. Should someone break in and you don't hit them, they can possibly strip you of said gun and then shoot you. Especially since most residential buglaries are unarmed, as I mentioned. .

...wrong. I'll lay some big odds that no one can strip me of a gun and shoot me prior to my shooting them...that is unless they are a Ninja like Kosar. :nono:

To me, the chances of having to use it for protection are not enough to outweigh the risks. I can beat the shit out of someone with a bat if the need be. .

...wrong again. This is my home I am protecting. I might take a knife to a gun fight, but if the fight is coming to me and my loved ones...you're the fool for bringing the knife. :sadwave: Bat vs. Gun :mj07:

Before I get attacked by the masses, I'll write my disclaimer: I'm not passing judgement on people who own guns and know it's their born right to do so. I simply gave some opinions since this was a pretty one-sided post thus far.

LOL, all in good fun, bro. You know we're cool.

Totally agree. On all counts.


..unlike me and napolean. :142smilie



p.s. Rex, I am much more disappointed in your pops "fer not learnin' ya better" ...but then again, you guys are from way out west, so all is forgiven. :SIB


p.s.s. Finally a thread that I can get into.... Where's 6'5"?!?!?! LMAO
 

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when i was an insurance broker in brooklyn, i had a client who owned a collision shop..since he dealt with a lot of people who paid their bills in cash he carried a gun wherever he went. one night he came home & put the gun in his bedroom closet. his 3 year old son got a hold of it & started playing with it with his 1 year old brother..the gun went off killing the 1 year old boy.my client's wife divorced him because of this incident & left the state. her where abouts are unknown because she didn't want my client to ever see his son again.
she never forgave him of being careless with the gun & destroying her family.
 

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After reading this thread.....My Lord.... Thank god my parents came to Canada where we don't need to have guns in our homes. :com:
 

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when i was an insurance broker in brooklyn, i had a client who owned a collision shop..since he dealt with a lot of people who paid their bills in cash he carried a gun wherever he went. one night he came home & put the gun in his bedroom closet. his 3 year old son got a hold of it & started playing with it with his 1 year old brother..the gun went off killing the 1 year old boy.my client's wife divorced him because of this incident & left the state. her where abouts are unknown because she didn't want my client to ever see his son again.
she never forgave him of being careless with the gun & destroying her family.

Al,

The people with loaded guns placed all around their house don't wanna hear about about shit like this. They're under attack!
 

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...thank GOD. I'll never be worried by the Canadian invasion. ;)

:mj07: :142smilie :mj07:


...advance apoligies to my northern :

:mj07: :mj07: Thats for sure!!! We just retired our Seaking helicopters so you guys in the US should be fine from us Canadian folks. :mj07:
 

taoist

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Al,

The people with loaded guns placed all around their house don't wanna hear about about shit like this. They're under attack!

...attack? Yeah, right.... We call it prepared. :)

...don't push this thread into the political forum where no one sees it, ya bastid. :nono:


...think of it in terms of football, kosar. The best offense is a great defense. (...and while you're at it, why don't ya post a couple of games. LOL) :142smilie :scared :142smilie
 

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It's regional, agree with Saint completely.

Never touched a gun in my life and do not plan to.

Maybe it's because I'm laid back, I don't know, but I don't see myself ever shooting someone if they were looking to steal my tv. Have a billy club that was passed down from my grandfather, and I feel even using that might be excessive.
 

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The 6's P of life....

Prior

Planning

Prevents

Piss

Poor

Performance.


You will never catch me unprepared for some type of asshole coming into to my house unwanted for whatever reason.

I wont be the one saying, if only I had a gun I could have protected my family better. Why o Why.

I live in a sleepy old town on the coast of Southern NJ now & highly highly highly doubt I would ever need use of a gun, but I had them when I lived in Texas & saw no reason to get rid of them despite the low probabilities.

Consider it my own private insurance policy.


6 P's live by them & you'll do alright!
 

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five handguns in the house, one machete, two shotguns, one ar15, and one 45 in the truck. That should be enough to deter any ex-wife that may wander back through the area
 

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plenty of guns, but I keep none loaded. Wife does, however keep my Beretta close by with the clip in but no round chambered. I'm the hunter, but she's the one that has the gun nearby at home. I taught her to shoot it well. My kids also have tremendous respect for guns, and I have never allowed "toy" guns. That's a recipe for disaster. Guns are not toys.
 

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Always wanted to get a shotgun or handgun for emergencies, but haven't followed through. I wouldn't know what to do with it. (and most of it is friggin illegal in SF anyway).

I agree with a couple of you that touched on the aspect of keeping a gun for natural disasters. The only reason I would want a firearm is to protect myself in some end of civilization scenario (hurricane, earthquake etc). Gotta have a way to protect my whisky from looters. Knowing my luck I'd shoot myself or go to jail for killing an intruder. or get sued.

Besides I have a couple hookers that walk the street I live on. Their high heels and huge breasts deter most robberies. These are some tough ass dudes. I shit you not :142smilie :mj07:
 

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Always wanted to get a shotgun or handgun for emergencies, but haven't followed through. I wouldn't know what to do with it. (and most of it is friggin illegal in SF anyway).

Knowing my luck I'd shoot myself or go to jail for killing an intruder. or get sued.

Besides I have a couple hookers that walk the street I live on. Their high heels and huge breasts deter most robberies. These are some tough ass dudes. I shit you not :142smilie :mj07:

San Francisco! :142smilie
 

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Imagine this scenario. After a long week at work, you are finally able to relax at home with your spouse and two teen-age daughters. You?re in your living room watching TV with your spouse. Your daughters are in their own rooms doing?whatever. Because both of you have worked hard for many years, you are now able to live more comfortably in what you thought to be a safe community.

At 9:00PM you hear a knock on the door and your spouse gets up to answer the door. After the door is unlocked you hear a sudden outburst as two strange young men burst through the door and into your living room. As the door crashes open, you see your spouse is being punched and beaten to the floor. Before you have time react you are overcome by physical force and threats of harm to you and your family. The two men are brandishing guns and are shouting obscene threats and commands simultaneously as they push you onto the couch. One of the men quickly searches the house for other occupants while the other stands guard over you.

Your mind is racing. Will we be killed? Will these attackers beat us or molest our daughters? The level of terror and anxiety is enormous and will cause victims to sometimes act irrationally. Some will freeze and become incapacitated from fright. Others will instinctively resist and try to fight back. Others will run away if possible. Psychologists have labeled this phenomenon as the ?fight or flight syndrome.? The first thirty seconds are the most critical to your family?s survival.

Most people don?t know for sure how they will respond to a personal crisis until it occurs. Many are surprised afterwards by their behavior as having been heroic, calm, cowardly, or stupid.

The response possibilities are endless, but most fall into three general response possibilities. You can resist the assault; comply with all commands; or you can try to stay calm, wait, and resist, comply, or flee as the scenario evolves. One thing is clear, there is no one single correct response to a life-threatening home invasion scenario. The choice is personal, based on your own assessment of your physical and mental capabilities and your belief as to the level of eminent danger.


Have an Escape Plan
If someone in the household can escape and call for help, the home invaders will have lost their advantage of having privacy and time. To some, running away from your family in crisis is distasteful, especially to men or women with children. However, the alternative might mean being handcuffed or tied-up or otherwise incapacitated and left to watch in horror as your family is molested. If you have a plan for escaping, make sure you include were to run and what to say. Sometimes a radical escape measure pays off, in life and death circumstances, like diving through a plate glass window, jumping from a balcony or climbing onto the roof. Although you might sustain minor injuries you must weigh them against your chance of survival with the assailants.

Home invaders will sometimes threaten harm to children to get adults to comply with their demands. But at the same time, children are often overlooked as potential rescuers and sometimes are not as well guarded. If the opportunity presents itself, a trained child can dial 911, activate an alarm panic button, or escape to the neighbor?s house to summon the police. If they are capable, they should do it.

Handguns and pepper spray can provide a means of self-defense in a life-threatening situation. Homeowners have successfully defended their families in the past from home invaders using such weapons. However, sometimes homeowners have lost their weapons to home invaders because they couldn't get to them in time to use them. Most chemical sprays are tucked away somewhere and many handguns are kept unloaded or locked up to prevent children from getting their hands on them. During a home invasion, you cannot always count on your ability to get to these weapons before being injured yourself. Ordinary household products can work in self defense. Chemical fire extinguishers work great to disorient the robber.

Fighting with the intruders sometimes works, especially if you have some training and are physically fit. But for most, fighting doesn't work because the victim was pre-selected for their lack of fight capability. In a life-threatening situation there are no rules for fighting in self defense. The idea is not to stand toe-to-toe and duke it out. All you need is one incapacitating blow to the nose, eyes, or throat to allow time to get out of there and call for help. Take a self-defense class together with your family so all can learn the proper techniques and can practice the procedures. A practiced technique has a better chance of being used effectively in a crisis.


What Not to Do
Don?t ever try to pull a weapon on an armed perpetrator who has you covered with a handgun unless you feel it?s your last chance. Don?t ever agree to be transported somewhere else like to an ATM machine or other location unless you feel it's a life or death decision. The second crime scene is almost always more violent than in your home. If you have a choice, never agree to be tied-up, handcuffed or be placed in the trunk of a car because it takes away most of your self defense options. Don?t ever follow an intruder once they leave your home. Leave that for the police. Don?t fight over property loss, it can be replaced?your life cannot.
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If you stop and think about watching someone rape your wife or children in front of you, thats all it takes for me to make sure this will never happen to my family.

Not sure what kosar would do to protect his family. Maybe screaming real loud would work. Or maybe trying to reason with them would work out well.

For me , even if they get the drop on me,
there is going to be hell to pay shortly.

If you think about it anyone's house can be staked out and get the routine down. When someone comes home from the grocery store, alot of trips in and out. Alot of opportunity there.


just sayin
 
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The most common point of attack is through the front door or garage. Sometimes the home invader will simply kick open the door and confront everyone inside. More common is when the home invaders knock on the door first or ring the bell. The home invader hopes that the occupant will simply open the door, without question, in response to their knock. Unfortunately, many people do just that.

Home invaders will sometimes use a ruse or impersonation to get you to open the door. They have been known to pretend to be delivering a package, flowers or lie about an accident like hitting your parked car. Once the door is opened for them, the home invaders will use an explosive amount of force and threats to gain control of the home and produce fear in the victims. Once the occupants are under control the robbers will begin to collect your valuables.

Some home robbers have been known to spend hours ransacking a residence while the homeowners are bound nearby watching in terror. Some robbers have been known to eat meals, watch TV, or even take a nap. A major fear is that the robbers might commit more violence like sexual assault or even murder. Some robbers have kidnapped and forced a victim to withdraw cash from their ATM machine or take them to their small business to rob it as well.

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